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Old 04-04-2010, 10:20 PM #90
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I beg to differ - the theoretical is already partly negotiated if you speak to senior Scottish politicians and Scottish Office Officials - would involve some concessions. Taking the Euro was never a concession as the SNP have wanted that all along, as have many Scots to assist in the process of divorcing/differentiating from the nation of England & Wales

Pulling up bits from a Unionist Website seems quite frankly desperate. Do you have an agenda for Unionism?
Not at all,I did state the link was a unionist website but the claims are valid and factual, but I will further enhance the reasons why Scotland will potentially have problems.

THERE is no precedent of a member state breaking up, which means the issue of an independent Scotland's position within the EU is under speculation. If you think about it Spain will veto it on the grounds of the problems it will cause with separatists in its north. Look at the problems with Kosovo.

Plus Salmond has already stated he would withdraw from the CFP, not a wise statement given he has claimed Scotland will get straight in but the EU itself has not stated this is the case, they refuse to comment on hypothetical cases.

As for your statement that things have already been partly negotiated, care to provide something concrete to back that up? And would it really be wise to join the Euro seeing the problems the recent Greek financial crisis caused? You say many Scots, is that backed by statistical analysis, any research?

International case law favours the notion that the larger entity in a political break-up is usually designated the inheritor of all treaty obligations. This would therefore leave Scottish ministers having to negotiate not just membership of the EU, but of the United Nations and the WTO. However, many argue it would not benefit the EU to fracture borders, at a time when it is engaged in enlargement.

( http://news.scotsman.com/europeanuni...for.3589518.jp )

Actually it would be far easier for the EU to simply state, yeah you can be an independant nation however we will deal with you through the UK.

As for the case that they will sail straight into Europe, as many times as he and Sturgeon keep giving the same old garbage, they dont and cant state it as given. Just because other members of their party say it will be so doesnt mean it really will be. He can state it, but you will notice senior European Official also state the opposite.
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Thanks.I just didn't want to make a fuss.
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