[stoney]

can you two task experts tell me how long someone must do a task till he fits into your "thats ok he is now trying time"?

He tried simply by volunteering to try to do it.

He doesn't do phisical very well so gave up when it became very uncomfortable.

i was actually shouting at the telly when Caoimhe and Ife were wrapping the gaffa round his lung area that they had to do his shoulders and crotch to win as he would have difficulty breathing simply cos we have played that sort of game before