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Old 23-08-2010, 08:31 AM #17
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Originally Posted by ElProximo View Post
It will go nowhere and barely be read,
but,
There is a way in which I agree (in principle) with the OP and this is actually a serious problem on television 'reality shows',
and,
In day to day life.
The 'creepy' accusation.
Somehow it became acceptable for teenage girls to accuse anyone of being creepy.
Not just teenage girls but grown women do it too.
Editors have been getting more bold with it on Reality shows yes.

Here is the problem though:
- As soon as you start using or pushing the words and terms 'Creepy' or 'Perverted' you are dangerously close (if not over) the line of accusing someone of an actual criminal act.

- This kind of accusation can have very serious social consequences which can seriously affect a persons ability to earn a living, destroy their reputation, make them at risk for violence or even risk losing their children and marriages.

- When you have these 'seemingly criminal' accusations and they are NOT actually investigated it may be the WORST thing for the accused never gets to defend themselves or be exonerated.

One thing I would encourage Mario (if he felt it was appropriate) but also anyone else accused of these things to do is consider hiring a Lawyer and look at things like libel and defamation of character.
EVEN if this includes teenagers (in which case the parents are contacted).

If you think I'm exaggerating this then don't - I have been in meetings with law enforcement people where this very problem is the focus and ways to deal with it were discussed.
In one example given some teenage girls decided they disliked an adult male employee but began 'campaigning' gossip where he went from disliked to 'creepy' and 'pervert'.
Within a short time managers heard rumours of this 'creepy guy' and the accusers introduced a running joke of him being a 'paedo' and how 'child molester jokes' soon went around.
A week later people not familiar with the original premise simply understood a 'child molester' worked there.
At some point a parent got the idea this 'creepy molester' was threatening his teenage daughter and was going to go viciously assault him,
but,
the police eventually got involved. After spending a lot of their time and money it was quite obvious there was nothing.
The girls DID have a list of stories that amounted to some off-colour sexual innuendo, him looking at breast areas and 'he looked creepy'.
Unfortunately, by that time the man was already ruined, his girlfriend left, he eventually lost that job,
and,
we found out later when he applied at another restaurant the manager there had not hired him as she had 'heard he was in some kind of trouble with police over child molesting'.

Anyways, all of this just going back to the OP and suggestions that IF Mario does feel that some kind of 'pathological' or even 'criminal' misrepresentation was implied or insinuated I actually DO encourage him to look into some kind of legal reps and consider penalizing and vilifying the false accusers.

Oh.. you know one other thing that came up in my city was that a women did accuse someone of rape here and it was discovered to be untrue. She eventually admitted making up the story,
but,
in fact, police here did arrest her (proper jail too) and she was charged and found guilty and ended up with 2 years!

So maybe police are starting to move in the right directions now.
that is a really good post and very interesting. The hysterical vigilantism against men who could be perceived as being some sort of threat to women or children is used as an attack on anyone who is different. Binge drinking chavs especially can get very insecure if you're not reinforcing their behavior constantly...(I was told i was "weird" because i wasn't interested in the world cup). Men who are single, middle aged and perceived as socially awkward are especially vulnerable to this type of judgement. It seems a growing number of women, teenage girls and also males when it suits them find pleasure in labeling people as creeps or peados. I'm glad that woman got jailed for rape accusation.
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