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Originally Posted by Jamietwo
ok i'm kind of with you, but who are the deserving ones and how did they pay, i don't understand, would genuinely like to be enlightened here.
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Oh its almost unbelievable the process an immigrant must go through from the day they start to the day they get that actual visa. It will be different for different 'classes' (and the rules/process can change over the years),
but,
a 100% fully compliant law abiding immigrant may first way years (yes years) just to get in the list depending on how many in their country are already in queue (UK has set limits per year per country).
OK.
Say after 1 year (lets be generous) now the applicant is going to start with a big fat massive pile of baffling bureaucratic of applications which will almost require them to attend 2 months worth of courses to understand,
then,
they will almost certainly have to apply in something like a 'worker class' or choose a 'skilled professional class' (the days of just applying to start a new life and be unskilled are gone it seems),
so,
our hypothetical polish carpenter is doing something beyond a 'CV' but what will be the most in-depth cross-examination of every thing from his primary school to his 'high school' to every college course,
and,
keep in mind these are so detailed that every moment of his life must be accounted for.
For example.. a 3 month 'missing time' between his graduation and his 'trade school start date' could be grounds for elimination.
OK
Now wait until he includes family members. Same idea. EVERY date in their lives and every place they live,
and,
get ready for documents. We are talking every document (primary school records, wifes birth certificates, every trade certificate whether it was 20 years ago or not),
and,
now imagine every single thing needs to be official copies, notarized, translated by official people.
Now its possible they must show language proficiency (i think that is in now),
and,
we are still talking about just beginning 'phase one' here. This can go on for 6 months before we start talking medical examinations, blood tests, then we have police records and all must be as directed or taken as specifically designated. (this could be hundreds of miles from their homes btw)
Months later they may eventually find themselves getting to an 'interview phase' where they may travel hundreds of miles to the whatever-British Embassy.
There they will be subject to what are nothing less than detectives trained to catch them in lies or find problems and roast them over every detail, testing them.
Now keep in mind that every damn paper, every damn official medical exam, every twist and turn and paper and notorization and translation has fee after fee.
They got fee's for seemingly made-up things, fees for filing, fees for visas etc etc.
At this time our hypothetical Polish dad can easily have paid well over a thousand quid.. actually I say far more than that if you count the travel time, expensive couriers, if he has to visit cities, medical exams (they jack up prices knowing you can ONLY take them at UK approved clinics btw).
And all this and they STILL DO NOT HAVE APPROVAL YET!
They have done tremendous work, tremendous grueling effort and basically taken 'courses', waited for often years (years and years) putting their life on hold so to speak,
....Yet Gamu, Asylum Seekers and Illegals ROB MASSIVE TIME MONEY AND MANPOWER from the system.
They didn't wait.
They didn't pay all those fees.
They didn't have to swear oaths or spend months collecting documents and filing and doing the papers,
They don't have to grovel and prove themselves - they are in and on the system by simply crashing the queue and forcing immigration to deal with them first.
Just imagine.. there is a husband sitting in the UK right now who hasn't seen his wife in over 1 year. He is desperate, she is crying on the phone, they are dying inside... their marriage is strained.... they are waiting for a damn spouse approval and just invested the last year and thousands on this process which they 100% followed in every proper legal way,
yet,
they will now be torn apart for another two months BECAUSE GAMU'S MUM IS TAKING UP THE TIME, RESOURCES and PLACE that couple deserved and paid for and waited for crying at nights.
So **** Gamu's mother for hurting immigrants and causing pain and suffering and stealing from immigrants.