Also about this msn thing...Again I dont see a problem with mods chatting to other members offsite at times. I have like 35 members on msn, talk to probably aboout 15 ish...yet if they break rules I still infract/ban them, so bias doesnt come into it for me. Hell, the one person I spend like hours and hours talking too on msn is currently on a 2 week ban given by me(edit..no it wasnt given by me, but I did suggest it

...and I have banned him previously for weeks before). So this whole friends thing just doesnt come into it.