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Originally Posted by Pyramid*
I was under the impression that Angus was female - which is the reason I asked! I also asked because they were not the only person to have the same opinion - I happen to share it - and it could also have been directed at me - given that I also started a thread that was merged. 2 fairly understandable reasons for my asking which 'man' you were referring to.
What do I suggest? I suggest that Social Services do what they are specially trained to do, are paid to do: and that is their job. If anyone else failed to such a degree in their paid employment would be booted out on their arses - bearing in mind the amount of failings that surrounded this case. 17 alerts from the public. Baby handed back without any signs of the unfit mother mending her ways. Being aware that baby was losing weight, being aware of the unfit mother's continuing problems - yet none of this, none of the 17 public alerts were enough to flag up,"Hey..we'd better keep a close eye on this one....". How much prompting do they need? How many times do the public have to express their concern (over a child that had already been taken off the mother previously due to her inability to look after him).
Regardless of which job role is being discussed: a great many don't mean that failing will result in the loss of a life -and in the most horrific ways (as in this particular case). - so it's all the more important that social services get it right. Get it wrong is far higher a price to pay. As I say, for all of the reasons that I meantioned above (which I also mentioned in my earlier post) - that's why I don't feel this division of SS should be beyond critisism or beyond reproach.
How many 'red flags', how many alerts, warnings, triggers would they have needed before they decided to go check on things. If ever there was the case for making an 'on the spot' decision to protect this child, it appears they had plenty of opportunity but still failed to do that.
As I say, the price of the them getting it wrong is death - and as this case shows: not only did they get it wrong - they had so many valid reasons for acting - yet STILL failed to do so.
It seems as though Soc Serv haven't really moved on or learned that much from the horrible suffering and neglectful death of Baby P.
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A female called angus thats a strange one!
You still havent described how you personally would come up with a 100% system of securing a childs safety!
Social services do an amazing job and i dare say make a hell of a lot less mistakes in their job than you and people in your proffesion do whatever that may be.
Please enlighten us mere mortals how 100% perfection can be acquired have you never made one single mistake in your job? no i doubt it but that mistake doesnt make national news does it.