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Originally Posted by Pyramid*
See...I dont buy into this 'underlying personality disorder' ...... that I find is a perfect excuse for people who simply don't want to behave like normal, civilised, mannered human beings.
I am not saying that as a sweeping generalisation - what I am saying is that this is played up for nothing more than people wanting their own way, not conforming, and basically being demanding attention seeking idiots who use some form of 'personality disorder' as a supposedly bondfide reason - when in fact, they are just spoilt, demanding, attention seeking, workshy sods.j
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I'm not defending people who do this or even saying that they deserve the sympathy they so crave. Attention-seekers are self-centred people who habitually exploit others and choose to do the things they do in their quest for attention and sympathy.
Personality disorders are a thorny subject, because those living such a disorder are morally unscrupulous and whose inclinations fit the profile of a criminal. However, I think the fact that there is so much ignorance on the subject is part of the reason such people routinely get away with manipulative behaviour and their victims get the blame. We all hear about the bully that bursts into tears once she is found out hoping to make their critics seem like coldhearted villains.
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Originally Posted by Pyramid*
It's these types that do the greatest damage to the acceptance of MHI imo.
Depression for example (used to be called a nervous breakdown) - has become more understood, more accepted, as has 'stress' - a good thing for those who suffer. But far as I can see it, the strain on the medical and psychological resources has much to do with those who act it up - at the great detriment to real victims.
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When anything is done in good faith, there is a risk of somebody taking advantage. The only truly foolproof method of fending off layabouts, attention *****s and shiftless jobsworths is pretending the people who really do need help don't exist.
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Originally Posted by Pyramid*
You just have to have a look at forums with those on DLA, on IB etc, who are bricking themselves due to the new assessments coming into force.
If they had real issues: there would be nothing to fear.
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Many (those on IB and ESA) are bricking themselves because they will be called to another degrading capability assessment (which are notorious for recording inaccurate information) and a needless application for Income Support only to win back their ESA/IB at the end of the appeal period. Others (those on DLA) because they will have mountains of paperwork to look forward to and an automatic cut to their benefit.
Whatever bogus claimants of disability benefit cost the taxpayer is dwarfed by the cost of these mandatory capability assessments (13 weeks after the initial claim) which treat genuine clients like benefit fraudsters. Plus those who fiddle the system get by by claiming provisional payments of their ESA up until their appeal. What do they do once the appeal is over and they've lost? Take it to appeal again and again and again. An immensely wasteful and unfair system.
As a matter of fact my workplace deals with people who have problems with the DWP on a daily basis. The tribunals worker is usually saddled with ESA and Incapacity spongers (as his clients are those who failed the appeal stage). Not one bogus claimant I observed has claimed IB or ESA on grounds of mental health problems. All were physical complaints such as arthritis or hypoglycaemia.