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Old 10-04-2011, 12:17 AM #16
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Personality disorders are a thorny subject, because those living such a disorder are morally unscrupulous and whose inclinations fit the profile of a criminal. .
I could not disagree more with you. There are so many personality disorders, that for you to state that those living with such disorders are morally unscrupulous and whose inclinations fit the profile of a criminal - is absurd at best, and shows a distinct lack of knowledge as far as personality disorders is concerned.


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When anything is done in good faith, there is a risk of somebody taking advantage. The only truly foolproof method of fending off layabouts, attention *****s and shiftless jobsworths is pretending the people who really do need help don't exist..
Pretending the people who really do need the help don't exist? I have not a clue what you mean by this or how that relates to fending off layabouts etc.


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Many (those on IB and ESA) are bricking themselves because they will be called to another degrading capability assessment (which are notorious for recording inaccurate information) and a needless application for Income Support only to win back their ESA/IB at the end of the appeal period. Others (those on DLA) because they will have mountains of paperwork to look forward to and an automatic cut to their benefit.
Well I'm afraid that's life -no one said it was easy (it's not a bed of roses for the mentally sound either !!). We have systems in place that afford those who are genuinely ill, a good source of income via different types of benefit and allowances - to ensure that they have decent standards of liviing and not working for it (even if they have never paid into the system). I dare say that assessments may not be the most pleasant of experiences: but I'd say it was a small price to pay for the end result.

As I say, assessments are required - no use bleating about it - and the mountains of paperwork etc are partly designed to try to discourage fraudsters - it's not ideal but it is what it is. Anyone with a genuine illness should have no issues in passing their assessments - and those who are genuinely ill and who don't....when appealled, their cases are usually won if and when challenged. I suspect not as many true and genuine cases refused benefits/awards. It may not be ideal: but if it has to be the way it has to go, to avoid paying out to liars, cheats and fraudsters, it's unfortunate but there is a damn good reason for it. As I say: people with clear and serious issues may not look forward to the assessments: but ultimately, if they are genuine, they should not fear the result.
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