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Originally Posted by Dezzy
It's not your problem yet you'll stick your oar in. You can't just use that to back out of an argument when you feel like it. You blame the parents? Offer up real solutions instead of stock advice that doesn't work in the real world. People who criticise yet don't offer up any real solutions are just pointless.
Kids veer off the right path regardless of good parenting at times for outside factors, It's very easy to say it's the parents' fault but prisons aren't full of people from bad homes because shockingly enough people with good parents are also capable of making stupid decisions. Simply blaming the parents is just simplifying the matter down to a moronic degree and making them and other family members suffer for one person's idiocy is just foolishness. Most of the people who have been arrested have been teenagers on the higher end of the scale who know their own mind and the difference between right and wrong, even with bad parenting you'll realise that eventually. However it was their choice to riot, no one else's so why make a lot of people suffer who wouldn't have done anything wrong? People are just playing the blame game when the only people to blame are obvious, the rioters themselves.
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Firstly, let me say, I am surprised that you of all people would feel justified in suggesting that I am a pointless person and that my opinion is moronic. As for "sticking my oar in", this is a debate thread on a forum, it's all about sticking your oar in even though your opinion may differ from the majority.
No, it's not my problem, it is the problem of the parent of the child in question. My only problem is that I pay tax, which is spent on benefits, child allowance, contributes to tax credits, my council tax goes to pay for education... fair enough. However, I don't expect that money to pay the rent of some feckless parent who can't control their child. Whichever way you cut it, parents are responsible for their kids until they reach 18. I haven't made that up. That's the law.
In this case, you're talking about how good parents sometimes can't help their kids going off the rails, and I agree with you. I'm sure the decent parents were disgusted by their kids actions. I see the mother of the athlete shopped her to the cops, and good for her, making her child face the consequences. I'm not talking about people like them, I'm not talking about decent parents, I'm talking about the kind of scum who have shogged along to court this week with their kids, wearing their best tracksuit bottoms, sticking their fingers up and telling the photographers to go and ******* themselves. They couldn't give a monkey's toss about anything that doesn't affect their free money and subsidised residence. This thread is about whether to take away the homes and/or benefits off people who are probably known to the police, who may have previously been reported to the council as anti social, who will have signed a lease setting out their responsibilities, people who have been probably been given more than once chance. Enough is enough.