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Originally posted by Ollie!
Judging by the crowd Liverpool have far superior fans to Chelski. Every team has filled their end more than Chelski did yesterday in the previous history of the community shield. Chelski have no history and are just an average sized club with barely enough fans to fill their stadium. Whereas Liverpool are a massive club with a massive worldwide fan base and sold out their ticket allocation.
Terry was at fault for both of the goals so you can't just blame Cudicini. Lampard and Ballack don't seem to fit in the same team, selection head aches there for sure! Gerrard and Alonso are two of the best midfielders in the world so I doubt Makelele compares to their absense. But Shevchenko looks set to be a revelation in the premiership so it's not all bad.
We don't care about the community shield, we just care about beating Chelski and laying waste to their fantasy football millionaires team. I dunno if you noticed but a young 21 year old completely dominated the Chelski midfield, Momo Sissoko added to Gerrard and Alonso with the added pace of Bellamy and Gonzalez and the assists from Pennant plus a new prolific striker we are possibly bringing in I think we are well positioned for a title push. Chelski are still the team to beat though, but they are are definately beatable.
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Liverpool are a bigger club, but then what's football if smaller club's can't have their chance? Manchester United are England's biggest club, yet they don't have the divine right to be champions every year. The fact is Chelsea did not care about winning. They care only about The Premiership and Champions League, and destroying Liverpool 4-1 at Anfield
I also disagree that Liverpool fans are superior. They have a hooligan element (Heysel) and they always cheer when a serious injury to an opponent, i've heard the songs about Riise breaking Smith's leg.
Anyway, one game means nothing. An average Benfica side beat Liverpool in two legs last season, doesn't mean they are a better side. Lampard and Ballack cannot be judged on one game together, the 1-4 victory at Liverpool last season, Carragher and Hyypia were ripped apart, but most of the remiander of the season, they were excellent.
Bellamy will be injured before long, as usual, or arrested for beating a woman in a nightclub, and Pennant will be back inside on more drink driving offences, so don't hold your breath with them. Gonzalez could be the part, we'll see, he's already saved Liverpool against an Israeli side, they should have beat by at least 4 on paper. I wouldn't rely on Sissoko either, he's a massive candidate for red cards and couldn't hack it in Spain, the world's best league.
Chelsea will win the league, and I suspect Arsenal will finish runners up. Rosicky is the best signing of the summer.
Sorry, I just don't think Liverpool or Man Utd have what it takes this season. Neither have a top class striker (yet) and as a Dutchman, I assure you Kuijt will not be the answer, and anyway, he's already said he'd prefer Newcastle to Liverpool, so may not be an option. Liverpool have far too many 'on the day' performers, and the new signings are just that.
Shame you did not get Simao, as he's 10 times the player Pennant is, a player not good enough for Arsenal.
If you sign a top striker and some cover for Alonso and Gerrard (Zenden is not adequate) then you may get within 6 points of Chelsea.
Ballack will prove his class, the guy is one of the most complete midfielders in the world, Shevhenko will score for fun, Makelele will come back, Cech will come back, and it'll be Gallas or Ashley Cole at LB. Kalou is an amazing talent, Joe Cole to come back as well, Chelsea have an embarrasment of riches and Diarra and Mikel are 2 kids who will be the mutts nuts as well.
It would be good to get a Liverpool team and Man Utd team able to challenge, but the likes of Kewell, Bellamy, Crouch, Fowler, Saha, Solskjaer are not going to win anyone anything. They are either past it or simply not top class for a big club like the 2 mentioned. United have Rooney, but he can't do it on his own.
I don't support Chelsea, but don't mind them having money, no other club would refuse to be bankrolled like them, but due to jealousy, people can't handle it.
First thing for your team though, is to get qualified for Champions League. It's not done and dusted yet, although the fact the 2nd leg is on neutral territory, will help Liverpool.
I'll remain unconvinced. Pre-season Liverpool were beaten by 3 weak sides, with a pretty strong team out.
Be good to see a 4 way battle though, so wish your team luck, even if I don't see it happening.