[starry]

The problem though as I said earlier is that the producers make us look down on the HMs by looking at them as just being a joke, instead of as people who we may like some things with but dislike others. This wasn't always the case, but from perhaps BB6 or BB7 onwards it started to become a feature of the show. Now it's reached the point where Marcus is virtually laughing at them during the HLs. This approach makes it difficult to really care enough about those in the house and makes the celeb series harder to get through, but would make the main series impossible to like for it's length. If someone is just a shallow joke figure the jokes end up being lame by the 2d or 3rd week. CH5 have really brought this to the final stage and made it very hard to like people on the show enough, strange as they have made it a vote to save but it seems only reluctantly to me as they prefer two up for eviction.