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Old 22-01-2012, 04:44 AM #47
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I see, just because I don't share your, quite frankly disturbing, bloodlust I must be some sort of soft type who goes around hugging rapists and murderers.

Good logic.
I don't share your, quite frankly, unsettling naivety - I have no doubt that you are capable of "hugging rapists and murderers" .....

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Okay then let's live in your proposed world for a moment, in order to save money we kill the most vile of criminals, we then decide to save more money by then killing thieves, thugs, people with parking tickets ETC. If the Law is ruled by finance then it'll ultimately be ruled by greed in the end.
What "proposed world" ?

Ofcouse, you are free to dramatise ..... but the law is ruled by finance - property is more important than people - "it's the rich wot gets the pleasure, it's the poor wot gets the blame" - robbing banks gets you locked up, but robber bankers grow fat on your cash .....

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Because it's cheaper to simply imprison criminals? Your whole point about executions being a better option financially is ultimately flawed. In America it costs a lot more to execute someone then it would to imprison them since you have to go through years of appeals and court actions before you can execute anyone. It's cheaper to simply imprison someone and try to rehabilitate them so they aren't a danger to the public when (or if) they are released.
This is NOT America (or even the USA) ..... so your point does not apply .....

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Like I said before it'd be a bigger waste of money to execute them. If you're going to imprison someone it's worth trying to rehabilitate them since it's better to try and fail then not to try at all. Not every Jail sentence is permanent so what's the problem in trying to rehabilitate someone so they aren't a danger to the public when they are released?
Ah, the old Christian Victorian "reformer" argument ..... it never worked and it never will - prisons have always been "schools" for villains, nowadays they're "colleges" for religious fundamentalists, too .....

I'll do some research on the cost of the criminal rehabilitation system in England and establish the actual success/failure rates ..... I have no doubt that the results will be interesting .....

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