[the truth]

Which is the greatest of these 2 scoreses gangster masterpieces?

Its hard to believe but they were only made 5 years apart, yet goodfellas feels a throwback to the 70's/80's

Both imho are sensational movies, the stories, the books, the cinematography, the cast, the directing, everything , just awesome

on IMDB goodfellas has 8.8 out of 10....one of the highest scores in movie history, casino has a healthy 8.2 out of 10

goodfellas is movie history, it created a movie style and genre all of its own for future generations of movie makers.

However i would argue that IF scorsese had edited out about 40 minutes of sharon stones domestic tantrums, then casino would have been as good if not better.....as 80% of casino is just awesome

I watched it in the cinema and its the most exciting cinema experience Ive had. even the bit where deniro gets blown up in the opening credits, you knew this would be a hell of a ride

Whilst pesci is in full psycho mode, james woods plays a fantastic cameo as a dentist chasing loser,don rickles is great too, theres a long list of legendary italian/american actors whove starred in goodfellas, raging bull, etc

But for me the diamond here is deniro...hes not playing a real gangster here, hes a gambling maths genius.the role he plays in casino as sam "ace" rothstein is just cinematically awesome, the attention to detail, the way his genius built up the vegas gambling strip for the gaangsters, meanwhile him being jewish , despite being nicknamed the golden jew, hes always an outsider who has to quell his gangster friends.

his attention to detail, like deniro himself, is mindboggling, the man weighed every showgirl, measured the number of currents in every fruit bun,tested the hardness of the floor on basketball courts before giving odds. test drove every yokel on the gambling floor, oversaw every camera, every cheater, meanwhile as he made the mafia millions he wasnt even allowed a license to work in nevada....so changed his job every other month.

In the meantime he has to fight his gold digging missus every 5 minutes as she bleeds his fortune

so what happened to scorseses legendary editor thelma schoonmaker here? cut sharon stones endless blubberings and you have an all time classic
very few actors could have played . To be frank your heart actually bleeds for this man. Only a legendary actor could make your heart bleed for the man who built up the mobs vegas empire.