[joeysteele]

This thread contains some really strong points and observations from both sides.

I myself feel that come the general election UKIP will likely do a great deal better than previous years but somehow not make 20%.
What I find odd in the polls is, as UKIP rise and the Conservatives fall,despite that from the low base the Lib Dems were on anyway, they are falling too and really into near desperate depths,one poll has them on only 7%.

I still believe the Conservatives will not get less than 29/30% in a general election and I also believe a new leader for them would go some way to pulling back some support.
Just as had Gordon Brown been replaced by Labour at this time before the last election, they may well have won at least another 20 seats at least.

Never will I believe the Conservatives are only on 24% like one poll says,just as I never believed in 2010 that the Lib Dems would finish ahead of Labour either despite polls indicating that.
It irritates me the emphasis that gets put on the opinion polls by the media, polls are a sort of guide, nothing else, how many times are they wrong and badly wrong too.