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Originally Posted by joeysteele
I am only asking the question Omah not stating anything as a fact.
Also while I accept your post above being accurate which it is.
I myself,speaking for myself, see a difference of people killing each other who are in mutually declared world wars armed against each other as opposed to the brutal barbaric murder of someone,even a serving Soldier, just walking in a street unarmed.
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That's exactly the sort of thing that elements of "Dad's Army", which as you know, was made up of butchers, bankers and boys, were trained to do should this country be invaded - they would retreat to underground bunkers then emerge at night to cause mayhem amongst the invaders, killing brutally, barbarically and every other way - the life span of these previously "rationally-minded" men was estimated as a maximum of 2 weeks .....
Similarly, non-combatants, particularly women, were selected for the SOE, where they were trained in all the methods of killing serving soldiers, behind enemy lines, armed or not .....
Michael Adebolajo said he had carried out his attack because British soldiers killed Muslims every day.
No doubt a similar justification could have been used by the "civilians" of SOE - German soldiers are killing non-Germans every day, so we'll kill German soldiers any way we can - the knife, the garrotte, the bullet or the bomb .....
"War" is frequently just a matter of perception :
President John F. Kennedy , early 1961, when he secretly sent 400 Special Operations Forces-trained (Green Beret) soldiers to teach the South Vietnamese how to fight what was called counterinsurgency war against Communist guerrillas in South Vietnam.
When Kennedy was assassinated in November 1963, there were more than 16,000 U.S. military advisers in South Vietnam, and more than 100 Americans had been killed.
Kennedy's successor, Lyndon B. Johnson, in August 1964, secured from Congress a functional (not actual) declaration of war: the Tonkin Gulf Resolution.
Then, in February and March 1965, Johnson authorized the sustained bombing, by U.S. aircraft, of targets north of the 17th parallel, and on 8 March dispatched 3,500 Marines to South Vietnam. Legal declaration or no, the United States was now at war.
This was not a "mutually declared world war" .....
That was why I used the word "conflict" .....
