[joeysteele]

I can really see all sides to this, including what Omah said as well to be fair.

I can only look at myself though as a person and I know,I couldn't be 'brainwashed' into killing people at random, especially anyone unarmed like Lee Rigby was last week.
If this Country was at war as in the world wars, then obviously I would probably get called up and have to go, I would though then be fighting against armed enemies and alongside my fellow soldiers.
Not only then defending myself and hopefully loved ones at home but also my fellow soldiers fighting alongside me.

However,outside of that, no organisation could so fill me with general hate to the point where I took on ridiculous nonsense to the point of not killing in a defending sense but killing brutally for very little or no meaning whatsoever,no matter the perceived cause.

That is why I still hold more to Jack's view on this that people who can be indoctrinated that way must at least in some way not be wired up right in the first place to be 'made' to or at least most of them being so.
These people don't have in the main the real established elements of their faith condoning their actions so why listen to bitter hate filled wannabees and then do what they tell them to.

I don't know the answers,any of the answers, I am not the intelligence organisations, I can only make observations from my own perspective and how I think.
What I saw on and in the media last week is not something I think could be termed any legitimate act in any way and not even in a war zone situation either.

I can see all sides to these arguments,which is why I choose not to dismiss others points because really none of us have the answers to this issue and for me even less so after the horrific event of last week.