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Originally Posted by DanaC
If there aren't jobs around at this time why are you assuming that people who can't find jobs are slackers...as opposed to people who cannot find jobs because there aren't any around at this time?
If cleaning a river is better than slacking, why not pay people to do it?
If the rivers need cleaning...and there is a pool of unemployed people to do the job - then pay them a fair wage to do it.
God it's so ****ing depressing. We are voluntarily and with eyes wide open removing all the safety nets and systems put in place across several generations. And the class that most need them (maybe not this moment, but life can throw a spanner in the works at any time) are baying for more cuts.
None of this is in the interests of the country as a whole. It benefits the employer class only. That's it. If there are no safety nets in place, if the idea of being out of work is so horrifying and scary that it keeps you awake at night, then you will suck it up when your boss treats you like ****. You'll take every deprivation, every zero hour contract, every pay freeze, every unpaid hour of overtime, every employer abuse and stay silent. No strikes, no standing up for yourself, no agitating for better conditions.
The tory dream has nothing to do with making this country better for the masses. Anybody with an income below £100k per year and without property, stocks and shares who votes for this **** is just a turkey voting for Christmas.
But ohhhhhh no. No, we can't bear the unfairness of our tax money paying for shirkers and skivers and curtain tuggers, and single mums and families who decided to have too many children. Oh how unfair, we rail. How unfair. I have to work and I can't have a big house for me andmy two children so why should they have a big house for their six? And how unfair that I have to work and pay tax so that they don't have to.
Jesus ****ing christ people, are we really buying this **** all over again? My God, these same arguments were dragged out over the Poor Tax and the workhouses. Exactly the same. Practically word for word.
I really want to smash something. Or I want to cry. This stuff doesn't just depress me it frightens me. I've spent time unemployed. I may do again. I don't own property, I rent. I have no savings, never had a stable enough income to gather anything together. And my health is intermittently awful. Mum's on a state pension (the lowest kind, as one of that generation of women who ended up on a shared pension with hubby for years before they got divorced), topped up by credits and housing benefits. How long til they shaft her?
I hate them. I hate them so much. And here we are again, with the opinion polls showing support from the working classes for benefit cuts and harsh penalties. Buying the goddamned lie again.
None of this will save the country money. There's the irony. It will, as usual, cost the tax payer more to be cruel than it ever did to be kind.
[eta] It wasn't even the unemployed who broke this country. It wasn't benefits that put us in this situation.
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I agree with all of this, it scares me. for now, I'm employed and we do fine month to month, but we rent, own no property, have no savings... it's a precarious situation no matter how secure your current income is. We have very little to inherit, too. My parents owned a gorgeous detatched 4 bedroom house - then they got divorced when I was 18, sold up, and blew the money on nothing at all so now they both rent
. My partners parents own their nice home too but they had her young: they could easily still be alive when we're 70.
I'm pushing 30, which I know is still young, but I worry that if I don't own property in the next 7 years (by 35), the way things are going, we never will and that scares me looking to the future. There is absolutely no security at all, for normal working families, let alone those who need more help.