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Originally posted by James
Bullying comes in many different forms and one type of it is spreading poison and lies behind someone's back, turning people against the victim and verbally abusing them just out of earshot so that they are aware of it. Bullying and bitching are two sides of the same coin in my book but lot of people seem to think bitching is just a normal part of Big Brother unfortunately.
Shilpa was very definately aware of what was going on. Another point to make is that they knew Shilpa would eventually hear the things they said about her behind her back - when she left the house.
To be honest no I didn't like Jade before CBB but she didn't exactly do anything that would improve mine or anyone elses opinion of her. Why would I approve of anything she did in the house?
I watched BB3 and Jade was unpleasant in that towards Sophie. In Channel 5's Back to Reality Jade was completely horrible to Rik Waller. Check out the clips on Youtube - it's vicious. She became a celebrity on the back of these episodes so is it any wonder there was a new victim in Celeb Big Brother.
And then there's all the ridiculous media stunts she has pulled over the years to stay famous. She's the embodiment of pointless celebrity.
But who would have thought she would blow it as much as she did.
The other housemates didn't criticise the Jade group because of their social class but rather because their lack of 'class' in the way that they behave and treat other people.
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Indeed, that's a fair point. However, Shilpa and Jermaine did exactly the same thing, which takes us right back to the beginning once again.
Agreed, although I think I saw it in a somewhat cunning way that doesn't quite tally with what I presume you're suggesting. And the same is true for Shilpa and every other hm. Jo for example took the betrayal of H, her supposed friend, very well after leaving the house.
Well actually, she did several things. But if you had a negative disposition towards her from the outset, then of course that wasn't going to resonate. She was extremely embarrassed about the task, and just wanted to be treated the same as everyone else. That was genuine, and it was obvious that she wasn't at all comfortable. That was a positive aspect. She continually apologised for her mother's behaviour and conduct. She was glowing with pride when her grandparents were in the house, and they were lovely, genuine people. I think it would take one hell of a cynic to say that seeing her with them wasn't incredibly sweet. She put the other hm's above herself at every opportunity, particularly when she was concerned about the food budget, and during the incident with Ken. That's already been twisted into a negative though, of course.
I watched BB3 too, and the only hm's that
weren't horrible to Sophie were the men who received hand massages, and clearly had high hopes of physical contact of a considerably more intimate nature. I seem to remember she spent the majority of her time in the house complaining that everyone was bullying her, in fact. Are the events really so clear in your mind though, or did a certain Sunday newspaper article add to the memories? I haven't watched Channel 5 since they finished running the repeats of Prisoner Cell Block H. Still, Rik Waller perhaps isn't the best example, given that he's pretty much unanimously regarded as an incredibly obnoxious man. And she became a celebrity on the back of the way she reinvented herself and turned her life around, James. But you've pre-judged her to such a degree that you're overlooking the fact, it seems.
She's a celebrity because she's pulled herself up and made a life for herself. People admire her (or used to, at least) for that, and liked the 'rags to riches' concept of it all. She's stayed famous because she got herself a good agent, and people are (were) genuinely interested in what she was up to. The same comments could easily be applied to umpteen other celebrities, too.
Well, she didn't really 'blow' anything. The media did though, of course - out of all proportion. Ricky Wilson (Kaiser Chiefs) was on Radio 1 when the witch hunt was still raging. I can't quote him exactly, but it was something along the lines of; 'What a fuss, over two women having an argument'. Which is, quite literally, ALL that it was.
I disagree. But if you shared their class bias perhaps, then it would pan out that way, of course. Even though it's wide of the mark, by quite some way. It's almost as though you're quoting, or at least paraphrasing, Jermaine.
It's a shame that so many seem to have allowed preconceptions to cloud their judgement. And I think it's sad that those who actually watch the show more often than anyone else have allowed themselves to have their viewpoint formulated for them by the media, and have replaced an entire series with those few clips that have been shown ad infinitum.