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You judge Chantelle on what exactly??
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I didn't say I judged her. However, my opinion of Chantelle is based on her in the house last year, and in interviews since. She seems a nice enough girl.
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You say that the majority of people didn't want Jade there?
Where are your facts?
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Where are your facts to support that most people did want her there? There was annoyance when she went in - far more people were against it on here, and other forums than were for it.
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You are also saying that their is corruption! and you bring the lovely Davina McCall into the equasion too.
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I'm saying that they allowed racism to get viewing figures, and only stepped in when they realised the extent of the outcry about it. I'm not blaming Davina personally - she is Endemol's puppet.
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Jade Goody is a reality show girl and she is up for quiz shows, talent shows, singing shows, interviews, mags, newspapers and most of all reality shows.
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I've seen Jade on a couple of quiz shows - she didn't know anyof the answers, she doesn't have any discernible talent, can't sing to the best of my knowledge. The interviews, mags, newspapers and reality shows all come under the same banner. But that is all irrelevant to the point we are discussing.
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She is into perfume, a beauty salon & fitness.
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Or her manager is?
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Richard Branson could retire? Julia Roberts could retire? Bill Gates could retire?
I won't go on listing the next 5 million names!!!
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And they day that they cause a disgrace and an international incident, I hope that they do!
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Jade Goody does not want to retire, okay!!
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Well yes, that much is obvious by her desperate PR campaign (although on GMTV she said that her career was not her priority at all - funny that.)
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If Jade Goody had bullied (Cleo) she wouldn't be in this position. That is FACT!!!
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No it isn't fact. You yourself said on another thread that we are all capable of speculation. You should not get facts mixed up with speculation. It didn't happen, so we will never know what position Jade would have been in.
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The fact that Jade said that, "Rick Waller" smelt was not just her opinion. It is just that, other housemates are more tactful and Jade Goody says it how it is. Also, it stirs things up a bit. Maybe she is playing to the cameras?
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And that's a good thing? It's good to be tactless?
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Jade Goody did do Liposuction and also, she did fitness stuff too.
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Yes, but she conveniently forgot to mention the lipo.
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Rick Waller has a lot more weight to lose and needs a more sympathetic trainer to help him.
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What's the relevance of that to this thread?
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Jade Goody's fitness video has sold well and helped many people.
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I don't know how well it's sold. How do you know that it has helped many people? I would appreciate an answer based on fact, not speculation.
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Jade Goody is not interested in hind-sight.
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At the risk of sounding like a stuck record - how do you know what she is interested in?
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What Jade Goody is interested in, is, (right now and the future)
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See above
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If she thinks that for one second, that her children could be in danger. Jade Goody will sort things and she is doing that right now!
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Can you tell us what she is doing to sort it out while she is on her PR campaign trail in India? And how do you know what she is doing?
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Endemol cannot lie about anything. They are answerable to the laws of this country.
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Endemol can lie about whatever they want! (Not that I'm condoning that.)
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There has been judgements made from the recorded footage from the show
and Endemol have come out of this, legally squeaky clean.
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Surprise, surprise.
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OKAY, TO YOUR PERSISTANT QUESTION!!
If I did or do know Jade Goody personally.
What Jade Goody chose or chooses to tell me, is her words from her own mouth.
Whether they are actually true?
That is another story.
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I'm sorry for the persistence, but you refused to answer the question, and in fact, you have still not answered it. Do you know Jade personally or not?
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However, I shall not allow the words "Racist" to be attached to her in any way.
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Without meaning to sound rude - you can't stop people having and stating the opinion that she is racist.
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Jade Goody is hated by many right now and it is going to get better not worse. Proof and other stuff will follow.
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Well, I won't hold my breath waiting for your 'proof'.
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From watching Chantelle, from the edited footage on Big Brother, she did seem nice!
From watching Jade Goody, she seemed the opposite.
Lucky that all of us aren't blinded by edited footage on reality shows! Isn't it!!!
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The facts about Jade Goody appearing on Celebrity Big Brother in January, along with her family, is, she is the kind of Reality Show girl that the viewing public want to see.
She brings in ratings and ratings are made by people watching the programme.
The reason that rating figures increase, when a person like Jade Goody appears on there, is, that she is in demand and people want her to be there.
It is very obvious really!! That is as obvious as Facts!
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"Davina & Endemol & puppet" don't all go together.
Davina McCall is no ones puppet.
She does a job and does it well, Honesty, too.
She would NOT be doing the show for Big Brother 8 if their was going to be corruption.
You keep saying the RACISM word. I keep saying, there was NO racism, Just words which may have been construed as having racial overtones!
There is a significant difference legally! Hence, NO PROSECUTIONS!!
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Jade Goody is very talented!! She has made plenty of money too.
But, it is true, it has nothing to do with her situation today.
and she is fighting tooth and nail to clear her name and feel safe too.
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Jade Goody does have management and advisors.
Perfume and fitness & beauty is a lucrative industry and everybody makes money.
and the consumer is happy too.
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If any wealthy and successful celebrity has been wronged on a reality show or anything else.
They will always try to clear their name
Jade Goody is one of those people and that is what she is doing.
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Jade Goody DOES NOT want to retire.
However, if she manages to clear her name
The first priority is safety and if she accomplishes that, which I am sure she will.
Then, if she finds that nobody wants her? which I also doubt!
Jade Goody would start another project, which will keep her busy and also, get her name in the papers and mags.
JUST TRY TO GET HER OUT OF THE MEDIA!!
Jade Goody is a tough cookie and will stand up to this and also, a liar in a reality show.
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I don't speculate on that (Cleo) comment.
If Jade Goody had argued and made comments to (Cleo) Jade WOULD NOT be in this position!
FACTS!!!
Just like, "Dirk Benedict".
If you watched the show, you will know why I mention his name and my FACTS above.
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If Jade Goody was playing to the cameras in the Rick Waller disagreement?
It makes good viewing to some.
Also, whether it is right or not, is for many people to debate.
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If Jade Goody forgot to mention about the Liposuction?
Then she made a mistake.
She's not infallable, you know?
She can do silly things, like the rest of us.
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Fitness videos do help many people!
I don't have to please you with my answers to your questions.
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Jade is not interested in hind-sight.
Because, what has happened as happened. Her job is to repair the damage, which was not serious.
But, the Jade Hate that exists today, Jade needs to address.
Hind-sight is the past and if you go on Youtube.com
We can all see it.
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Going to India is all part of helping her children.
She has gone to the country where many were offended
she has been very generous and given a lot of money to a very worthy charity.
There will be a few which will now think that Jade Goody is much better than what they witnessed on that show.
Jade Goody's two boys were well looked after while she was there and Jade would have phoned every day too.
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Endemol cannot lie about transmitted footage.
Regarding the un-cut unedited footage.
I won't comment!!
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People have got their oppinions of Jade Goody.
They are entitled to that.
Drumming up hatred towards her, is (bullying on a massive scale) in "it's self."
JADE IS NOT A RACIST PERSON!!
There is NO proof and NO evidence!
(You are aware of the possible penalties for actual racism?)
ARE YOU?
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