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Originally posted by Ruth
These threads are going round and round in circles and getting frankly boring. I've got better things to do with my time than argue with someone who blindly refuses to take any notice of anything anyone says.
I would say one thing though about the Pete and Traci situation from last year, because nodisharmony has suggested that I don't think bullying is a serious issue unless racism is involved. That's absolute rubbish. I thought Pete was vile to Traci and more should have said about it. But there was no racism involved. I hope that clears things up.
Now - nodisharmony has managed to single handedly turn this forum where there was once plenty of lively chat and talk about all sorts of different subjects, into somewhere boring and no fun to visit. So, while he's here, I won't be.
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Ruth,
The reason that I mentioned the Traci/Pete episode, is, that Davina McCall mentioned it in that interview.
So naturally, as it was on topic, it was a fair conversation to be had.
I agree that "Bullying" is a bad thing to do and I understand what bullying is. Certainly, it is the threat-of-violence which is usually behind the worry-factor.
Somebody worrying about what could follow, beyond that bullying.
I hardly think it is likely that Tracy, or indeed Shilpa expect their agressors to ever use violence? That is certainly NOT the case.
However, I said that the furore over Race, was very real and as past reality shows, where there is housemates locked in a house, or even a "Love Island", arguments have always broken out & plenty of bullying too.
Jade Goody was in Big Brother 3 and actually argued there and many have used the word (bully) and after the show, there was no furore.
Anyway, much time later and 8 million quid later, (in case you forgot Ruth) Jade came back and met Danielle & Jo then met Shilpa and the word (Race) began to come up, nevermind the bullying part Ruth, it was the (Race) part which made the furore.
If you listen to Davina, you can see where she is coming from, when she says that she can't understand it.
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Regarding your other comment, whereby you have strangely got annoyed about these big (Q&A's) between both of us.
I actually did a big post, all about the different angles of the situation between Jade, Jo & Danielle, which was in answer to another forum user.
Then suddenly, you Ruth, take each quote that I said and gave your opinions to each and every one of them.
I then took each of them points and gave my responses
It is actually called, "a good debate".
If you don't like it, then you don't have to make it happen. You actually said that you were'nt going to bother with Q&A's anymore, and place me on ignore.
Suddenly, you change your mind and start Q&Aing me again.
There's nothing wrong with this, even though you think there is??
I can only say, it is like you facing the X-Factor's judge Simon Cowell.
Many come and audition in front of him and personally think that they are very talented and can actually sing? Suddenly, Simon puts him or her down and tells it exactly how it is. If they are good, he'll tell them! If they are not, he may say something to hurt your feelings.
But deep down, he is actually right! Even though many thousands would disagree.
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In a case involving CBB Jan. There is sadly much disharmony and in fact, much trouble and also the biggest question mark ever hanging over the shows future.
How can you guarantee big ratings for a show which is going to go on for three months and editors are going to have to be so careful with the editing and at the same time, a show which is always argumentative at times, maybe they will have to show total peace and fun only.
It will become very mundane and boring and Endemol will look at the ratings and so will Virgin and that could be it?
I hope not.
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Regarding your threat of (me or you) situation.
I am sure you will rise above that comment and realise that it is 6 of one & a half a dozen of the other, with this situation.
nodisharmony
