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answer:- Okay GiRTh, point taken!
Jade has stayed in the Newspapers because she is a celebrity who is controversial at the moment and controversy sells Newspapers. Especially were "boobs" are concerned and that is very much this topic.
Why should Jade indulge in some philanthropic work within her community?
Are you saying that she needs to do this?
I think Jade Goody will do what she chooses, actually! Whether it be "community" projects or "boob-jobs" or anything else.
She has said sorry, given money away & went to India and generously offered to wear a Sari.
I think it is more educated to assume that she has done a lot more than the others and now, for a bit of "leisure" and fun and self esteem, (A boob-job), why not? If it is true, which I doubt!!
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It was the topic until I pointed out how bad the story looked. Since then it has become another of your waffle fests.
I believe she should do Philanthropic work. What do you think the donating the fee and the trip to India was about.
I don’t think Jade will do exactly what she wants because people will pick up on the lack of sincerity and point it out. She’s shown her true colours and I notice that you don’t deny this.
Again, I note that you're distancing yourself from the article, but you posted it and your first few posts don't indicate the sudden u-turn.
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answer:- It is very easy for you to mis-interperate what is said in that quote of mine GiRTh.
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'And anybody else for that matter’ is the quote, but after so much elaborate waffling you’ve probably convinced yourself of the answer. Pick you words more carefully or don’t get an attitude and show you true colour
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Of course Jade cares about the Indian community.
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I think her lack of philanthropic work within the Indian community would contradict that. However, she cares enough about her knockers to have a boob job. You’ve haven’t contradicted me. In fact you’ve probably reinforced my point by your lack of source for this statement.
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At the time I joined here, things appeared more worrying for all the girls. But they have picked themselves up and started to move on.
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So you're saying that she's gone from death threats to confident enough to have a boob job in less than four week. That's quite a recovery. Is that what you're saying?
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answer:- If a man puts £10 in a collection box for the blind, then, just as he turns around the corner, there are 45 beggars with their hands out for different charities?
Come on GiRTh, get real here 
Jade Goody has done very well and given loads away!
Maybe Danielle & Jo should follow Jade's footsteps? Point Taken, okay, I hope, I doubt!!
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Jade has the money to give to charity and perform philanthropic work within the community. Your scenarios a ridiculous one. the average man in the street doesn't have millions to spare and further more what if 45 more charities come along, Jade has the money to help them; instead she has her breast's done. My point is, I see her priorities and neither you, her or her management team can deny this. Just admit to her selfishness.
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answer:- Now your waffling!!
I posted the story about Jade Goody having a boob-job.
It is an article, which may be true or may be false.
That is why we debate the possibilities from each angle.
Did she, Didn't she? and if she did, then why?
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So you're admitting that you dont' know her. At last.
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It's easy to make enemies when you know you're so right.
But I can be wrong sometimes, but not often!!
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Good one. You're so right that you're not only contradicting things that you said when you first joined the forum, but you’re perilously close to contradicting yourself in your own thread. Let me repeat that. IN YOUR OWN THREAD. What were you thinking when you started this thread.
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Hi GiRTh,
During my recent 48 hour ban, I have looked at your responses to what I said and am now answering them.
Your *quote* then My answer:- As Below.....
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*quote*It was the topic until I pointed out how bad the story looked. Since then it has become another of your waffle fests.
I believe she should do Philanthropic work. What do you think the donating the fee and the trip to India was about.
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answer:- I did elaborate a lot about your point, but some of that needed more wording, which is said by some as "waffling"
I guess if Jade Goody wants to do "philanthropic work", then she will do this. If she wants to donate the fee, then she will also do that. That will be her decesion naturally. But, just because Jade Goody wants to have a boob-job or something else to change or better her body, then she shouldn't be expected to have to donate money each time.
She has already donated money already. Plenty!
The India trip was her way of doing some good for a worthy cause, as she has recognized that many of the Indian community were offended by her actions in CBB Jan.
Many could look at that decision as being and admission of past guilt? That is of course, debatable.
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*quote*I don’t think Jade will do exactly what she wants because people will pick up on the lack of sincerity and point it out. She’s shown her true colours and I notice that you don’t deny this.
Again, I note that you're distancing yourself from the article, but you posted it and your first few posts don't indicate the sudden u-turn.*quote*
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answer:- Jade Goody has sadly had many who do believe she is insincere. You are right GiRTh.
I can't change that and nor can anyone else.
But even though you say that she has shown her true colours? How do you come up with that comment?
I am not distancing myself from the article.
I am talking about the article and replying to the comments you made against Jade Goody. No more, No less!
Some are edging away from it, but that is the way most of the debates on this forum go. I have had plenty of time to look and it is very true.
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*quote*'And anybody else for that matter’ is the quote, but after so much elaborate waffling you’ve probably convinced yourself of the answer. Pick you words more carefully or don’t get an attitude and show you true colour*quote*
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answer:- I have got angry at times. I admit that! Also, as Jade Goody felt patronised on CBB Jan., as did the other two girls. I was treating members who are happy to say horrible words and sentances about Jade Goody or to make fun of her and enjoy that.
So, I also gave the same treatment back in "Patronising" form. I was justified on occasion, but began treating other members who were just debating and not being nasty to Jade Goody, but just critiscising her and Jo & Danielle too, in the same patronising fashion. That, I do apologise for!
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*quote*I think her lack of philanthropic work within the Indian community would contradict that. However, she cares enough about her knockers to have a boob job. You’ve haven’t contradicted me. In fact you’ve probably reinforced my point by your lack of source for this statement.*quote*
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answer:- Like I said earlier, GiRTh. Jade Goody may have chosen to have the "boob-job"? We don't know for sure yet.
But we debate the pro's & cons for her choice, either way.
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*quote*So you're saying that she's gone from death threats to confident enough to have a boob job in less than four week. That's quite a recovery. Is that what you're saying?*quote*
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answer:- Yes! If she has had the boob-job?
Some people recover quicker. How strong is she? That can make a big difference, to everything.
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*quote*Jade has the money to give to charity and perform philanthropic work within the community. Your scenarios a ridiculous one. the average man in the street doesn't have millions to spare and further more what if 45 more charities come along, Jade has the money to help them; instead she has her breast's done. My point is, I see her priorities and neither you, her or her management team can deny this. Just admit to her selfishness.*quote*
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answer:- Jade Goody can have a boob-job and in five month's time, can do something for a worthy charity.
She doesn't have to give money at the time you or anyone else says. Does she?
This also doesn't make Jade Goody a bad person either. or selfish.
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*quote*So you're admitting that you dont' know her. At last.
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answer:- I never said whether I do know or don't know Jade Goody. I also didn't say that I know Jo O'Meara or Danielle Lloyd. But, many people know celebrities from years ago or month's ago but may not know everything that is going on in their life right now.
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*quote*Good one. You're so right that you're not only contradicting things that you said when you first joined the forum, but you’re perilously close to contradicting yourself in your own thread. Let me repeat that. IN YOUR OWN THREAD. What were you thinking when you started this thread.*quote*
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answer:- I am contradicting nothing!
I am admitting that I have stated facts and done much research and give very good educated opinions.
But we can all make mistakes.
That is very honest, isn't it GiRTh?
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Okay GiRTh. I have answered to your comments and there is nothing nasty or patronising said within this post. I shall show everyone that I am prepared to debate and take your or anyone elses opinions on board.
nodisharmony