[joeysteele]

Hmm. lostalex, you have got me thinking.

I have always accepted the innocent until proven guilty route, however what you say above is very thought provoking and puts a really strong argument as to thinking the other way too.

Good post,really good post.

Your points as to rape are very strong ones and as you say,if it is believed someone is innocent until proven guilty then the other assumption is the accuser is lying until being proved correct.

For me a separate issue is that it takes way too long to get through the court system and resolve in the courts as to an actual trial which leaves the outcome in the balance for an unacceptable length of time.

I need to think about your post,it does make points difficult to argue against really.