[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

I agree that immigration is a problem, it's just not as base or as simplistic as the homeless and starving population argument as the issues raised in here. They are important singular issues, that the government and the (mostly) rw rags throw together to appeal to all of the middle-England Galahads. I thought the neo-nazi party was actually banned in Germany? Obviously you can't stop people joining the underground version, but I'm sure it's not a realistic option at the voting booth (although I remember reading that somewhere ages ago - so it may not actually be true, and typing this whilst eating bacon is the limit of my my multitasking ability).

I agree a serious discussion. and idea session needs to happen to combat the people who just basically want to steal from us (I do get that), but that is a separate debate from what we do/don't provide for the generational families of the UK.



That's the perfect example of my point - we can tackle foreigners because they're the "other", but we can't tackle people worth hundreds of millions, because......it's natural to want to keep the money you get. Isn't that exactly what people who come here want as well?

You'll never fix a society that builds from the top down. Ever. Ahh those pesky rich people with their selfish tendencies, but one person on benefits who goes on holiday, makes news on this morning, but the wealthiest take more than a cheapo package to Fuengarola out of our pockets, and that's understandable.

There are issues to fix with immigration, but demonising one group, and providing cover for another, shows the reason that the left struggles with the issue.

Hard to argue with any of that