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Originally Posted by joeysteele
That isn't Helen's fault though,I don't care what any of the housemates say, any of them would have loved to have the free pass to the final from Pauline.
Helen is no way my favourite there but she is an equal housemate who got a very early 'perk' in the series,which I think was wrong to be given so early but again that is not her fault.
Asheigh for instance along with the other females, got a power week solely for them where only the guys were going to be up for eviction.
That isn't an equal scenario either.
Ashleigh may well have gone that week had she not then be protected from being up that week too.
Helen has still had to be in the house, do all the tasks and all else BB expects apart from being at the front of the eviction process.
That surely has to be what a free pass is however and should not have her deemed any less a housemate.
Had she chosen to get the pass, fine, however she was given it and not a sinngle housemate I bet would have refused it either had it been given them by Pauline rather than Helen.
Helen has the advantage because someone had to get that pass,Pauline of all of them chose her for it.
Her status as a housemate should not be belittled and brought down because she had it, if she hadn't the pass then someone else would have it.
I don't get the being pilloried for having something that was 'given' to you.
So for me the top female can be a personal choice as to who is liked but Helen and Ashleigh have been there from the start and one having a free pass while the other doesnt to the final,should not in my opinion make one of any higher status than the other.
I don't like Ashleigh, I make no secret of that,Helen is someone I would talk to but not really have anything to do with but for me on a status level they are both equal in that house as to the major females housemates for the time they have been in it.
It isn't Helen's fault at all that she has what you call an 'advantage', therefore her status as an equal housemate cannot be in question just because she has that pass
A pass which in truth, could have been given to any of the original housemates, except Pauline herself who was the one who decided who got it.
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...it’s not ‘equal’ though Joey and never will be unless she had been eligible to be nominated at some point like all other housemates were, regardless of twists or ‘power’..it was never meant to be equal though when BB gave it out, it was always meant to set that person apart and make them unique...I never said it was her fault, she didn’t choose to be chosen by Pauline but it’s still had the same result regardless of making her a ‘unique’ housemate as no one ever before on BB has been exempt form nomination/eviction for the entire series...what is helen’s responsibility though are the flaws in her character that to some/many and me included, make her quite unlikable as a person ...as are Ashleigh’s flaws as well and all other housemates and we all see those differently as well...but in terms of ‘all being equal/a level playing field’ so to speak, for me and as seen in this thread..lots of other people, Ashleigh is ‘top female’ because she and also by no fault of her own has experienced everything that is BB...nomination/eviction is one of the things that the housemates must hate most, the unpleasant thing part of rejection they have to go through at some point unless they’re that one winner and for Helen..when she’s so critical ofwho nominated who etc and why, she should have empathy for that and how hard it’s been for housemates to make these decisions and been the ones to ‘suffer’ from these decisions and in a way, it’s ok also for her fans in general to be critical of the fans of other housemates and how frustrated they have got by all these twists and turns etc and say..oh you wouldn’t say that if it was Helen..but they’ve also not been supporting a housemate where there was any fear of an eviction of that housemate and we all know from other years and no exemptions, how ‘excitable’..
..we get about that and worrying that our housemate will go....I will say also though Joey that it’s not just because it’s Helen, I would have said that the housemate has not had the full experience no matter who it was and it’s even what Helen knows and has said herself...she will outstay Ashleigh unless Ashleigh reaches the final and then she may not but for me Ashleigh is the ‘top female’ because she reached that stage with the possibility of eviction most weeks....