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Originally Posted by joeysteele
I am not writing venom about Ashleigh, I don't really care for her as I cannot stand 2 faced people, something someone bullied I would have thought would set out to avoid doing at all.
I have every right to put my point as to her as I see what her actions are in the house, not out of it, and I don't like what I see,I have never made a thread about Ashleigh because I don't care for her, you however cannot resist any little dig at Helen even as to her son and herself as a Mother recently.
However, those who dislike Helen have every right to say their thoughts from their perspective of watching her in the house just as everyone else can about Ashleigh too.
Ashleigh was not forced to go on BB, she applied and chose to and if she does things people find offensive, ignorant and 2 faced, she will get that criticism rightly levelled at her just as Helen's gets too.
A teenager, come on jet, Helen is hardly collossus,teenagers can say plenty with no fear at all to people older than them.
I considered myself an adult at 18, Ashleigh is also one, or are you saying she isn't.
She is also an equal housemate,so for me,in that case, if she has to have special consideration since she is 'only 18', (that old chestnut again),then no way should she be or should she have gone in the BB house at all.
It is never a picnic for anyone in the BB house and she well knew that before she went in I would dare bet.
You say did I expect a teenager to stand up against Helen,who you claim to be a bully which is to me incorrect anyway.
Yes, I would expect her to, she is on TV monitored by BB,what on earth could happen to her if she stood up to anyone, nothing at all.
If she has been bullied in life as you state, then how really sad and bad of her to then victimise Ash just to get at Helen, by attempting to wreck his chances in the series by manipulating others to make sure he stayed up for eviction.
I tell you this, if she has really been bullied in her past, then sadly she hasn't learned anything at all from that other than be nasty to others herself too.
That shouldn't inspire admiration and respect for her,it should bring out contempt in my opinion.
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Firstly, you must have missed the posts I made about Helen NOT being a bad mother when people were saying she was for going into the house and her son getting stick at school. I said ONE thing about feeding her son burgers and you are on it like a fly on ****.
I do not get in every little dig at Helen, believe me if I wanted to I could do what the Ashleigh detractors do and go after her non stop - there is plenty about Helen to go after her for. I dislike her so of course I will criticize her behaviour but I don't do it a
fraction of the amount Ashleigh haters do with her. If you searched my posts you will find most of them are defending Ashleigh and unfair vitriol against her in threads about her and relatively few criticizing Helen.
Secondly, will you please please look up the definition of two faced. Ashleigh bitched about Helen, but did not fawn over her to her face which is NOT being two faced.
I just don't get your posts about Asheligh/Helen I'm afraid. I find them puzzling and close minded. To you she is 'spiteful and two faced' and 'she needs her roots done' and you never look beyond that. For example, I responded to your post and gave my view but you didn't even bother to respond to the points I made or discuss the content - you just picked those things you could criticize her for and ignored anything that might be positive.
I think it best if we agree to disagree and leave it there. I won't respond to you on this subject again. I know what you think of her and I really see enough hypocrisy here without reading any more.