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Originally Posted by joeysteele
The same with me.
Ashleigh was in my top 5 of housemates and Helen my 15th of 16 in the early weeks.
Then I looked for better in Helen and saw quite a bit too so gave her the credit for that.
She is not all bad just as Ashleigh is not all good in my opinion.
I also believe she would be a loyal friend to those she comes to feel she can trust.
She has a lot of complex issues and things she needs to see as to herself but I have seen her be a good friend to those she has come to trust and feel closer to.
Those she doesn't trust and doesn't like are also left in no doubt that's what she thinks as to them and I prefer that too in people.
For me she has been a major part of this series all the way through.
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..I think for me Joey, it's that it's a 'blind trust' in that even the people she trusts aren't necessarily worthy of that trust ..it's the differentiating between 'defending' and 'excusing'...although it's an extreme analogy, it's that thing/dilemma etc of would we 'defend accused of something/a crime..'...or would we before we reached that place of defence, have to be sure they didn't actually commit that crime and then decide..?..I know that's extreme but it's still the basis of what Helen does...she stops 'seeing and hearing' and only focus on defence which then becomes excusing in a lot of situations in the house...one of the best examples I think of how she perceives things and then acts on them was when she heard the conversation between Ashleigh and Chris and only 'heard' the negative..there was negative, yes but there was also positive in a way of explaining how far they thought she had come...but I feel the same as Chris said last night on the night before in that he feels as though he's regressed right back to his first thoughts of her because it's all Helen's typical behaviour pattern which she has to somehow start her 'journey' to try and break..even when she reflects or is forced to reflect by warnings etc from BB..I think her tears a genuine..?..but I think they're genuine in being shocked even at her own behaviour/reactions unless they're presented as 'evidence' that she can't deny but the tears aren't genuine because she's reflected on what that person who she said those things to/about did or said and whether they deserved her venom or to try to understand their point of view or reasonings for doing anything even if she then didn't agree with those reasonings....she just doesn't see or hear things at all.....and that's what really bothers me about her and why I think she has a long way to go before even starting her 'journey'.....