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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Responding to someone else's point about something else entirely. But you can't handle it so let's drag a load of other people into it. Yes, they were negative, does that somehow mean Ashleigh and Danielle weren't? No.

My main point is that Danielle and Ashleigh didn't need any encouraging before they immediately put a divide/wall between themselves and Helen, Danielle doing it within minutes. Helen/Pauline/Jale/Chris has zero to do with it.

But then she's come out and admitted to a fully fledged game plan so we know it for a fact anyway.

And I could say that you can't handle when some brings up a point contrary to your own. Its easily said.

You put Danielle and Ashleigh into a statement about "creating negativity" on day one. What you completely failed to mention was that the conversation that Daneille had was about Tamara, that she had a sixth sense that they weren't going to get on. Something that she admitted was based on first impressions. And she had this conversation with Matthew after he asked her if there was anyone she didn't like from their initial meetings. This was part of a larger conversation where they were discussing Pauline having to make snap judgements on people based on VT's, and how difficult that would be.

Ashleigh had nothing to do with that conversation. You chose to make that link. Daneille's point wasn't made maliciously, it was part of a conversation and she was answering a question, based on how you would chose to punish and reward someone after just meeting them.

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Because when a discussion is based on a particular topic/person, I stick to it. I don't feel the need to constantly drag other things into it.

Whether Helen, Pauline or bloody Tamara were being negative doesn't change the point about Danielle and Ashleigh.

In response to your misleading points and connections, I brought up actual conversations that created negativity, both those aren't what you want to talk about.

If you want to talk about creating negativity in the house at least try to find actual examples, instead of making tenuous links, based on half facts.