[nodisharmony]

My facts in response to supposition

Originally posted by spacebandit
Very interesting indeed.

Yes, the race issue has been brought back into question! thought you'd be interested

the TV regulator has now agreed that there was racism in the house, from the parties we all knew and accused of it in the first place.

Ofcom are now investigating and the parties involved are the same ones who were pointed out originally

So much for the "Jade would never do that" mantra

Jade Goody is NOT the one on trial here. It is mostly focused on Jo O'Meara & Jack Tweed. Both given formal warnings in the Diary Room(so the story goes) But even so, Jade Goody is not racist and I shall continue to prove it in my usual delectable way, angelstyle

being spouted by blind apologists.

Best to stick to CBB housemates, rather than worry about a factfinder/apologist/angel/whatever? We are talking about:- Jade Goody, Jo O'Meara, Danielle Lloyd & Now Jack Tweed + the so-called victim:- Shilpa Shetty

Although the more disconcerting issue here is the obvious plan by endemol to edit out the worst of it

Endemol has editors and they have the power and the judgement to edit out whatever they choose. The moderate the show and can be as corrupt as they choose to be/if they choose?

perhaps they thought they could ride out what they did broadcast - and for several months they have.

Endemol are much more clever than you think! Not likely to slip up over Ofcom's recent investigation, etc..

Now we know the truth

Do we?? We have been told by the Daily Star newspaper about the so-called transcript + There is nothing else that they can come up with? What about further footage from Shilpa Shetty perhaps? Something which may have made 4 housemates dislike her further

they were being racist, were called on it at the time, despite the denials of C4 and Endemol.

Words & comments that to some, may be construed as containing possible overtones my dear watson Hense denial

Endemol edited out what could arguably be called the worst incidents.

"The limerick", at least, I think I know what you mean?

For those seeking to apologise for them, just...because a racist comment wasn't broadcast does not mean that the speaker was not racist.

My explaination above & within this thread, certainly covers that point. "A limerick, in the form of a harmless joke, which could offend, so Endemol justly edited it out

It only means that a managerial decision was taken to hide it and cover it up, as the full report states, Brighter Pictures [the producers] logged comments as racist in their daily logs but did not inform C4 about this.

Cover up's take place everywhere even though some get caught due to bad management and stupidity due to overfriendships. Informing C4 about this, will be pretty low on their list of priorities. A few million lunchbreaks and then maybe, they'll think about their next lunch

So now we have it, in black and white what some have known since CBB.

Not to me

they are scum of the highest order

Incorrect assumption

end of story.

That's what you think

On a related note Davina on Paul O'Grady said the police had been through every single tape of the show and had found no evidence of racism

So

now we know that is untrue.

So Davina was lying? RUBBISH!!

Which means OFCOM had access to material the police must not have had as OFCOM have said the material they adjudicated on is racist.

What Ofcom have, is very little and I have torn it all into little pieces within this thread. Danielle Lloyd is taking action as we speak. She has NO time for this rubbish and neither has the other three. But Ofcom or whoever can do as it pleases

So did Endemol lie to the police, withhold some tape ?

Endemol said, that they wouldn't hand over the un-cut tapes, unless they were issued with a court-order. I have also heard that they said that some of the footage was erased or lost. But we are relying on Newspapers and the media. Get clear on that if you can

To clairify something I posted re. Davina on Paul O Grady - not suggesting Davina lied herself per se

That sounds interesting

I was suggesting she spouted the Endemol party line and saying what she was told to say / what she had been told - when the subject came up.

Davina is NOT a puppet. Neither is she interested in a cover-up either. Hardly in her best interests and she knows how some can become the fall-girl. Nevermind Endemol & BB

But the OFCOM report raises some pretty serious questions about Endemols co-operation with the police investigation.

I repeat......Endemol did choose to NOT hand over the un-cut tapes, unless they were indeed handed a court-order. The truth yearns, if you could see it, understand it and accept it

Wow, what an amazing example of ignoring the written word and bulldozing on blindly

Glad you feel that way I tend to bulldoze over hostile types/accusational types, etc...

Must be a kick in the nuts

You underestimate me

all this time with the apologist mantra and the excuses

Stating facts and good educational near-facts, it cannot get much better.

who could ever forget "part-time racist" ......... pure comedy gold

Part-Time racists/Full-Time racists & don't forget, Accidental racists + Racist jokes. That's four in-all

only to have OFCOM investigate, including viewing the unbroadcast footage, and decide that, yes, there was racism at play in the house and one of the perpertrators was your heroine...

They are pretty foolish to underestimate this pathetic situation over a limerick, which was edited out anyway. Hardly worth re-opening the past furore. They only want money, you know!! They are content on apologies right now. But sometimes apologies can be the same as an admission and an admission can lead to suing and suing leads to a big courtcase. I could add more..

the pig faced racist bigot

Your description for the amazingly talented Jade Goody. I tend to call her by her name. More polite and certainly fair

Whilst this is a serious matter...

Yes, it is serious at the moment, but Ofcom will move onto something else. It is like the wind. It changes direction and they will be after someone else soon. More money to be had, Why not

all that remains to be said regarding you is...

Not interested in your opinion of me. We are talking about CBB5 and Ofcom + past furore, etc..

This brings blind apologist theory to a whole new level of ostrich like behaviour.

Glad to me so ****

Risible pathetic jibberish.

Opinion at the lowest level. I shall rise above

"Not racist - its just like a comedian"

A limerick is a comedy thing. A few million would understand that, whether racial or not

The post is littered with comments and insinuation such as that and it is deliberately excusing racism.

Endemol edited it out. The limerick, etc...

Why don't you go up to a bunch of Asian blokes in the street and "have a little game of limericks", ending it with the obvious rhyme for tacky - then before you get your lights punched out- tell them its just like what comedians do and you can buy it in HMV so they shouldn't be offended.

Jack & Jo did it behind Shilpa's back. It was private from her and Endemol edited it out and warned them, as it was hinting racism. Even though it was obviously in the form of a jest/joke, etc.. It could still offend. Still doesn't make them racist people. You'll have to do much better!! Also, the 4 housemates in question, wouldn't test your experiment either.

I wonder if you'll even get to finish the sentence ?.

Like I just said above. They wouldn't test your theory

Apologists for racists are as bad as the racists themselves.

Not always the case

Your true colours are known

Not part of CBB5 & their investigations either. Which is what this debate is about, unless you have a more sinister idea in your mind

this grasping round for an excuse now that incidents have the official stamp on them

I never grasp

its what normal thinking people knew from the beginning

It's higher thinking that sorts out normal thinking. Normal thinking may not understand higher thinking. This is where explaination and further looking into CBB evidence is important. BB8 is coming and we'd like this investigation to sort itself out quickly

we now know that even the producers knew they were being racist at the time

Producers are just producers. They want a wage packet and then go home to their families or the pub. It takes senior people from Endemol to work this out

makes you even more of a pathetic apologist than previously thought

The mirror is the best place to say that comment Spacebandit. and I am NOT talking about the Daily or Sunday mirror either. Knock, Knock, Hint, Hint!!

If they were "full time" racists you would understand people having a bad opinion of them ??........

Of course...If a very racist remark is said and further nasty comments go with that and there is total and utter proof, without any shadow of a doubt, then it is a whole different cuttle of fish

that says everything about you that needs to be said

Read my points within this entire thread and it kind of sorts it out for you

none of it is good

In your opinion, which you are sadly entitled to

Not according to the official OFCOM report / adjudication apology before first show, before the first repeat the next morning
and before the first eviction show

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