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Originally Posted by kirklancaster
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, where do we begin? Although the only logical conclusion that any rational, impartial person who researches Marilyn’s death can come to is murder, the enormity of such research in having to sift through all the sheer wealth of documentation concerning her last hours, in order to separate lie from fact, is not a task to be entered into lightly.
I am lucky, in that I have long been convinced that Marilyn was murdered and have therefore already read and researched a lot of the many books (own several) and articles concerning her death. Much of what I have learnt and suspected has been confirmed by the excellent recent Channel 5 documentary ‘Conspiracy; The Missing Evidence’ referred to by Who Is She – but more than just confirming, this documentary does, indeed, fill in the missing pieces with new evidence.
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Haha that rumour has actually been debunked by James Hall the ambulance driver who's work colleague had since said that Mr Hall had lied about the whole incident, there was no injection by Dr Greenson and they were certainly Not at Marilyn's that evening?
I think it's maybe you that's being seduced by these scandalous murder theory books done by Slatzer and Donald Wolfe... you really need to put those books down.
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Originally Posted by kirklancaster
I think it’s important for anyone who has been seduced by the official propaganda and is therefore of the mindset that the Kennedy’s were honourable politicians and men who were above such ‘preposterous’ allegations, to research this clan – starting with the Patriarch Joe Kennedy.
If you do, you will learn not only discover that all the Kennedy's were sexual predators who make Bill Clinton look like a Trappist Monk by comparison, but you will also learn how Joe Kennedy acquired his millions through bootlegging, how he covertly used his money and connections with mobsters, celebrities, and the CIA and FBI, to get his sons elected to power - making many promises to them in return, only for him to ‘betray’ these people once his sons were duly elected. This trait of using people and then ditching them was continued by John, Bobby and Edward Kennedy, and was at the root of JFK and Bobby’s assassination.
During such research, you will discover the many ‘victims’ of the Kennedy’s duplicity, including, Cuban exiles who were promised that if they would invade Cuba and re-take it from Fidel Castro, the USA would give them ‘air support’ in the first instance and other support from there. This led to the ‘Bay of Pigs’ fiasco where the gullible exiles were betrayed with no such support.
The ousting of Castro was also one of the many clandestine promises made by the Kennedy’s to Joe Kennedy’s mobster pals because when Castro came to power, he booted the mafia off the island, seized their assets and closed all the casinos – the source of billions in mob revenue, and the mob were keen to reestablish themselves in a newly 'liberated' and 'liberal' Cuba .
Various covert inducements were also made to the mob in return for their ‘teamster votes’ to get his sons elected – one of which was that if Bobby was elected to Attorney General he would – naturally – implement ’soft policies’ on mob criminal activities. Once elected however, Bobby went after the mob with a vengeance. It may make you question why Jimmy Hoffa boss of the teamsters union subsequently suddenly 'disappeared'.
Among the many ‘powerful’ and 'persuasive' celebrities who were ‘courted’ by the Kennedy’s and used by them to get elected and re-elected, only to be ditched, were Peter Lawford and Frank Sinatra. Frank was utterly inconsolable when his ‘close friend’ JFK distanced himself from him once Frank’s usefulness to JFK was overshadowed by his growing infamy because of his association with mobster boss Sam Giancana (Frank co-owned the Cal Neva Lodge with Giancana) but – unlike Lawford, who was Kennedy’s brother-in-law – Frank never publicly ‘turned’ on the Kennedy’s or publicly revealed what he knew about their shady practices (though he revealed plenty 'off the record'). Does this 'using and subsequent 'betrayal by ditching' pattern remind you of JFK and Bobby's callous treatment of Marilyn? All will be made clear later.
Add to all this Senator Edward Kennedy - another corrupt, womanising, drunkard hypocrite Kennedy, one, who (like brother Bobby) used his power and connections to, quite literally, ‘get away with murder.
On July 18, 1969, Edward Kennedy was driving back from a party with pretty, 28 year old Campaign Worker Mary Jo Kapechne in his car, when his car plunged off the Chappaquidick bridge into a body of deep water. Coward Kennedy saved himself and swam ashore leaving Kapechne trapped in the back seats. He didn’t report the incident for a full nine hours by which time Mary Jo was found dead by rescuers. What’s utterly shocking is that Mary Jo had survived for several hours after the plunge – having been kept alive by an air pocket within the car. Divers maintained that had Kennedy reported the incident straight away, they would have definitely found Mary Jo alive. Subsequent Medical evidence substantiated this. It was alleged that Mary Jo was being 'used' by Kennedy for sex a la JFK and Bobby with Marilyn, but he not surprisingly denied this. He also denied being drunk, but nine hours gave him plenty of time to sober up, clean his dick, and make sufficient telephone calls to all the right people in order to best extricate himself from this 'career' and liberty threatening situation. (Remind you of Bobby Kennedy and Greenson's 5 hour delay reporting Marilyn's death to the police? It will become clear later.)
Instead of being charged with homicide, Kennedy used his power and connections to have the charge kept to 'Leaving the scene of an accident’ and was given a mere two-year suspended sentence and had his driving licence suspended for a year, although - thankfully - this did all but end his aspirations to follow his brother into the Oval Office.
Read up on this hateful clan of hypocrites, then decide for yourselves if this ‘stock’ was more than capable of having murder committed in order to preserve their status.
I am posting a detailed summary of the case for Marilyn's murder shortly.
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As i have noted from your post you go with the Kennedy's murder theory but please explain how exactly did they kill her? yes the police records were confiscated for the simple reason that Marilyn was having an affair with JFK...yes that part is true and lets Not forget all the other woman who had been secretly involved with him, and some even go on record stating they had actually got pregnant by the President - Judith Exner for one, and he also had an affair with his private secretary Mimi Alford and probably many many more...had these woman also been murdered by the Kennedy's i think Not...so what was so special about Marilyn's relationship?
It only makes sense that the CIA wanted to keep that under control....why does this point toward murder?
Anyhow, how do you think the Kennedy's physically killed her? With Nembutal? Doubtful. The conspiracy theories have GOT TO GO.
For all of you that believe Marilyn was somehow 'murdered'...what about Marilyn's history of overdoses and drug abuse, hospitalization and depression? is that being pushed aside and denied in favor of some slanderous theory? Marilyn overdosed several times and was saved each time by either Arthur Miller or Paula Strasberg....The last two years of Marilyn's life showed major depression, serious drug issues and detoxes, in and out of hospitals....She nearly overdosed TWICE in the last few weeks before her actual death! Magazines of that time predicted her actual suicide!! Yes, that is true!!! (I have many vintage magazines). Now, those are the facts....conspiracy theories have no proof at all. Where is the actual proof?
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The one thing that nobody from the conspiracy camp can seem to tell me is HOW did the Kennedy's actually kill Marilyn?
She died from a drug over dose...is this the normal way to kill somebody? I have heard stuff like "she was forced to take the pills"...how by being hypnotized by a swinging pendulum....i mean, come on!!!
There is NO evidence Marilyn was murdered. Absolutely none. Zippo. It is very misleading to claim that there is actual proof. There are 'mystery sources', like secret bugs in Marilyn's house - again where are these secret tapes...hear-say, rumours and speculation....none of it amounts to PROOF. If there was they would have proven it a long time ago.