[Red Moon]

Yes it is and too big to be spoilt by silly people saying silly things.

But they did say silly things. They were out of order. They are the main cause of any rule changes. They didn't have to do what they did. They had the choice not to be bullies. They decided to be bullies.

If they hadn't have acted they way they did then everything would be fine. You can't get away from that. They didn't t and now we wouldn't be having this discussion now.

They must take responsibility for their actions. Until they do we can have no respect for them. They can't continue to pass the blame.