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Originally Posted by Nedusa
Win power...... Are you kidding ??
This Man is a Dead Party leader walking, the knives are out and the whispering campaign has started.
It is no secret now that most Labour Grandees and an increasing number of Labour MP's consider Miliband a total liability who surely only deliver failure at the next election.
So in my mind he is already gone, decision has made and now it's just a case of how to replace him without damaging the Party any further.
I think now we will see the whispering campaign gaining momentum in the Press until calls for his resignation become unstoppable .
Bye Bye Mr Miliband .....
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Nedusa, usually I love your posts but I have to say, who is going to get into power then, the Conservatives again.Ehat you say will not come about as the process of electing and choosing a new Labour leader takes ages.
No way 6 months before the election would that even be a sensible thing to do.
What would pelase those Labour grumblers is Ed Miliband offering an EU referendum too.
Were he to do that, he would get less backbench grumblings from a 'few' Labour MPs.
I am actually surprised he won't do that,I am not bothered as I don't want one anyway.
Really there is only 2 parties that can win the 2015 election,I doubt either will probably get an overall majority but it is so, that the Conservatives can be 3% ahead of Labour and still not be the largest party.
They can both be on 30% each and Labour will still be the largest party. Whatever happens in Scotland,the SNP would never support a Conservative govt and certainly never with any of UKIPs ideas.
The SNP are a pro EU party too.
I fear that actually leaves Cameron more dead in the water than Labour.
Also there are the leaders debates, David Cameron performed badly in those last time and then didn't get an overall majority, Gordon Brown was lost in them from the start really.
Ed Miliband is a diferent performer and he ,I have the feeling, could impress a lot in such debates over Cameron and Clegg's record.
Also, Nigel Farage,he will impress in any debate he is part of, and although I genuinely think he intensely dislikes all the 3 main party leaders equally, I get the feeling he has just a little more respect for Ed Miliband.
I actually think Nigel Farage would love the scenario of a Labour largest party result where UKIP had picked up enough seats simply to say,give a referendum on the EU and UKIP will not vote against your programme.
I also believe since he says regularly, that he doesn't trust Cameron or believe a single word he says, that he would trust Ed Miliband to deliver such a referendum in the light of a hung parliament for that support.
No leader is far and away a popular one at present, however the Labour party is on equal terms or slightly more preferred as a party to the Conservatives in all polling.
If things stay that way as they even are now, even with the problems for Labour in Scotland,it will be labour who win by far the most seats and who will be part of, if not the, next Government,despite their leader.
Really the Conservatives would also be likely doing much better with another leader too, in fact all 3 main parties need a new leader.
None will come now before the election and there are 2 who will be seen as having failed the UK in Govt. namely Cameron and Clegg, and one that so far hasn't, Miliband.
David Cameron is a really poor PM we just as Gordon Brown was too, we have no idea who makes a good PM until we give them the chance.
For me, Cameron has had his chance and so Miliband with all his faults and awkwardness gets my support.
I could never support UKIP because I neither want an EU referendum or to leave the EU.
The Lib Dems for their misleading of the voters in 2010 and subsequent betrayal as to their promises, warrant being sent into the political wilderness for decades at least.