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Old 04-12-2014, 10:26 AM #9
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Originally Posted by Kazanne View Post
You have to give people the chance though,to prove what they say,and deliver,if they don't ,fair enough,ditch them next time,seems to me we are going upwards at the moment,hope we don't get a great big fall at the election.I can see that happening.
I would agree with that and in fact that is what I did myself in 2010. Although it was Lib Dem I voted, it is a Conservative led coalition we have and when I first came on here I was a supporter of the coalition and its targets and policies in the main.
Although I feared the detail,especially to the NHS and as to secure protection for those who are the most vulnerable.

I moderately supported the coalitions aim of clearing the deficit in 5 years,of ensuring the recovery in place when they took power stayed in place and that growth was strengthened year on year.

Then it all went haywire,they never achieved their targets, they lost the recovery that was in place when they took over, they lost all the growth too and for 3 years we bounced along on a flatline growth figure.
Inflation rose and outstripped earnings leaving the vast majority worse off, and they still are despite green shoots starting to show again as to the economy.
The deficit it is at best cut by one third rather than cleared altogether and for me all that constitutes massive failure on the Chancellor's and this coalition govts. part.

The unbelievable scenario of them now coming to the voters in 2015, asking for virtually the same time to do the same things, make more cuts and then clear this deficit,they said would be gone now.
That fills me with massive doubt they are on the right path in any way at all.

I am also suspicious of these so called better times really only appearing a few months before the general election is due.
Yet with still more severe cuts to services and likely against the most vulnerable again too still to come in the next 3 to 5 years were this lot to win in 2015.

Not all he said in this Autumn statement is bad and it shows he can do some things right,however I believe as to the NHS,this is a one off,it will be further run down if these win again and for me I will never trust either of these parties with it now.

As has been the case for the first 3 years of this govt, all they have said as to positive things as to the economy have not happened,they have missed target after target and I really feel it is more likely than not,that after the 2015 election if these won it.
We would then hear soon after, more downgrading of the state of the economy and targets regularly missed again.
As has been the case near all through this govts.time in power, with missed targets after near every budget and Autumn statements.

That for me, is failure on a grand scale, no more chances from me. They have had the last 5 years to prove they can and will do what they say and in fact we are only marginally better then we were in 2010 as to the economy.
However for multi millions of people, in work and out of work they are far worse off than in 2010 due to the cost of living being allowed to go higher for far too long.

None of that reads success for me and so I hope they are gone in 2015.
I can only see massive under investment in the NHS under this govt after 2015 then also with the eurozone having difficulties again.
I can also see this govt after 2015 blaming that for even more severe austerity cuts and a further attack on the most vulnerable,in work and out of work too.
With downgraded and revised targets again being rolled out in budgets and Autumn statements as has been the case for at least 3 years or more of this whole govts time in power.

The Conservatives hinged their cuts and economic policies firmly to the argument they made in 2010 that the sign of success was that the deficit had to be cleared by 2015,otherwise that would be disaster for the UK.
It is why they set out the severe cuts in the first year too rather than plan them better from the 2nd year in power.

They called Labour unambitious and reckless to plan to only half the deficit over 4 years making 20% less cuts and no cuts in the first year of office.
That to me, now actually sounded the better and fairer way to go on the economy and the deficit.

I say and feel that now because all we have had from this coalition govt. on all those fronts are injustice, arrogant and dismissive heartlessness and total failure across the board.

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