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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier
Err... Operation Cyclone?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
The CIA arming / using populations in the Middle East to further their interests. After that conflict was over those populations of newly-armed killers were then abandonned, with guns in hand (and a nice stockpile of soviet weapons to boot, plenty of nice durable AK's) and many of them went on to form the basis of both al Qaida and the Taliban plus many other smaller radical Islamist organisations. Organisations (not to mention, warmongering attitudes) that are the roots of ISIS.
Without the United States and the Soviet Union and their power struggles, ISIS would not have happened. They wouldn't have been armed, and more importantly, they wouldn't have had generations raised in conflict to become twisted and bloodthirsty.
Let's have 40 years of perpetual warfare and death in the continental United States, and THEN have a look at how "civilized" the population there is.
We in the western world are more empathic and more civilized because, frankly, our lives are really ****ing easy. Now, I'm not complaining about that, I like the fact that my life is relatively comfortable. I also understand that it's not logistically possible for everyone in the world to have lives that are as comfortable. I'm not losing sleep or tears over dusty foreign countries. I'm also not excusing barbarism in the Middle East or saying that the people responsible shouldn't be punished or just plain wiped out... because they can't be "fixed" at this point.
I just like spades to be called spades... and I think it's a bit ridiculous to sit in our warm comfortable homes condemning the barbaric war psychology of people who have known nothing but war, death and cultural violence. They are not "evil", they are broken, completely and irreparably broken to the point that, yes, most of them probably need "putting down". But the west played a huge part in creating violence that in turn spawned these people. The least we can do is offer up an audible "oops!" as we bomb them into the dirt. Sitting around on morality perches vomitting over how incomprehensibly ruthless they are, when we have not even the slightest concept of what a life like that looks like, is just a bit... distasteful. |
Sorry No....... I don't buy this excuse
Evil is as evil does.... These people are subhuman vermin who practise their evil,savage murderous acts on every occasion they can find.
They subject mostly innocent people who have also been "broken" by the West as you put it, to the most painful and savage deaths imaginable protected by their so called religious masters.
Regardless of what conditions they have been made to endure, they are evil subhuman pieces of excrement that need gassing on a large scale since they have no human value whatsoever.
So please stop with the appeasement, and face up to evil in our midst.
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