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Originally Posted by bobnot
Possibly the most small minded and bigoted crap post i have ever read on here and that takes some doing. I have many friends of all religions and origins and some of them shock and horror are also people that have immigrated here and have just as much right to be here as you do.
Twice in my life i have had had to be evacuated due to bombs placed by Christian extremist groups and once been within earshot of a huge bomb detonated by Christians should i hate them? should i tar them all with the same brush?
No because that would be idiotic.
Get a sense of perspective ffs and stop reading too much right wing propaganda it's rotting your brain.
The amount of religious intolerance you display is so hypocritical coming from someone that claims to be a Christian and yet takes a piss fit whenever anyone sniggers at people that believe in a god.
Your post is offensive and discriminatory to almost a quarter of the people on the planet and is uneducated reactionary bollocks based on the actions of 3 lunatics.
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I find your post bigoted and highly offensive, and it's a pity that this latest in a long line of atrocities did not move you so readily to condemn it on here with the same anger and passion that my post has invoked in you.
I notice also your reluctance to ascribe any terrorist murderers as Islamist or Muslim, as in; "3 lunatics".
Before you start criticising what I contend and before you start making personal attacks on me - get your facts straight.
Where have I had a "a piss fit whenever anyone sniggers at people that believe in a god."?
Are you referring to the times when I have responded to certain people who have posted to merely ridicule those of us having an earnest discussion on religion? What do you propose I should do - stay quiet, be apathetic, lethargic? Oh wait a minute, maybe I'm confused because that's what you propose we should all do on immigration and terrorism issues. isn't it?
Where in any of my posts prior to this thread have I displayed "religious intolerance"?
I think you are so blinded by 'immigrant/Muslim defensive rage' that I had the temerity to state what I did, that you are confusing me with the Islamic Fundamentalist murdering mongols who take "religious intolerance" to its extreme and who have it preached to them throughout the text in their holy book.
I have posted
many comprehensive articles on here stating that ordinary Muslims are not to blame for these atrocities and that a lot of them openly condemn the terrorists behind them, and I still do stand by that.
So perhaps I
should have made that point clearer in the post you object to, but that post was part knee-jerk reaction to yet another sickening atrocity carried out by these evil bastards, and part hurried due to certain factors, so I will better explain what I meant to put in my post.
The irrefutable facts are that these atrocities are not being perpetrated by armed invaders arriving here openly on gunboats from Syria, Afghanistan or the Yemen, but by immigrants who have been welcomed in with open arms .
by the very host countries in which they carry out their barbaric slaughter.
And therein lies the problem; how to effectively vet the floods of immigrants into this and other Western Democratic countries to detect such terrorists and prevent them from entering.
As they do not wear labels saying 'I'm a A 5th Columnist Terrorist Get Me In There' it's an impossible task, but because this problem with immigrant terrorist atrocities is becoming more frequent and their acts more audacious, something clearly has to be done.
The answer is unfortunate but necessary; stop
all immigration by Muslims - even if only temporarily - to allow our Security Services to function effectively. Give them the not inconsiderable hundreds of millions saved by stopping further immigration to enable them to rigorously investigate suspected terrorists and their sympathisers among those Muslim immigrants already here. And our Security Services are not clueless, they have their lists, but are restricted by 'red tape', lack of funds and time. So buy our Security Services the precious time to carry out such investigations without them having to concern themselves with how many more potential terrorists may be entering the UK daily among the new influx of immigrants. Strip away the 'red tape', let them do their job.
Ordinary peace-loving Muslims will not be offended by such an action, they will welcome it, and the one's who raise their voices in protest screaming 'racism' and 'xenophobia' will expose themselves as not being 'ordinary peace-loving Muslims' because no sane, decent person will ever protest against necessary measures taken to end this senseless slaughter of innocent lives.
I for one prefer to be accused of 'over-reacting' than not reacting at all. I prefer being accused of 'going too far' than having inertia and not moving at all, and unlike you and others like you, I don't sit back and lambaste those who at least propose some type of action to counter terrorism, nor criticise such proposals without proffering alternatives.
So just what do you propose that we should do about this terrorist problem?
Do you accept that such terrorists spring from the immigrant communities of the host countries where they are committing their bloodbaths? If so, just what do you advocate as the best way of solving the problem of identifying such 5th columnists from among the immigrant masses?
What do you contend is the best way of protecting Western Democracies from further infiltration by covert terrorists and their sympathisers which isn't offensive to Muslims, Immigrants, and their supporters?
Please post and enlighten me.
Oh, and I an genuinely sorry to hear of your problems and suffering at the hands of Christian extremists but would seriously be interested in knowing which conflict that was.