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Old 09-01-2015, 09:55 AM #190
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primitive? love peace enlghtnemnet redemption forgiveness etc these are timeless values of Christs teachings NOT of the curan. these are not primitive they are infinite. the religions are infinitely different. how many Christians do you see preaching hate and war on the streets recruiting suicide bombers in their churches? they are wholly different religions. this is a problem with 1 religion only, islam.
Today? Not many, though there are some fairly extreme organisations (just not well enough backed to be any threat). 500 years ago? Lots. 1000 years ago? Pretty much every church. Christianity was used to create an empire. It was the beating heart of war drums for over a thousand years, from the Crusades to the colonisation of the Americas. It's a fairly placid religion now mostly but that's because it has reached middle age and is more relaxed / reflective. Remember that Islam is a much newer religion. Still "in its angry teens", if you will. That's the only real difference. That and, unfortunately, that there were only wooden boats and swords (and maybe muskets) when Christianity had its hissy fit, but Islam has assault rifles and bombs to play with.

However, religion is only ever a mere tool. The Roman Empire, The Crusades, the expansion of the British Empire - all of these used (I'm afraid, The Truth, murderous) Christianity to achieve their non-religious goals of power.

This latest attack has only confirmed for me that there is something seriously ****ing sinister and unfathomable going on at the moment. These men were well trained soldiers. Not the usual gun-toting amateurs. Witnesses describe men who handled their firearms and moved in a way that suggested significant formal training in weapons and tactics. And who were considered dispensable, despite being valuable assets (again, not like the usual disposable kids normally used in terrorist attacks). All this because they were supposedly "offended by satirical cartoons"? No. It's nonsense. There is a clear and widespread global agenda to spark a twisted civil war across Western nations. I have no idea what the end goal of that agenda is. Thus far it makes very little sense. What I do know is, that it's so well orchestrated, pulling just the right strings here and pressing the right buttons there, that I'm damn sure it's not being planned out by people in dusty middle eastern caves. There is more to it. Much more. Something much more terrifying - something that involves all of the "major players".

Before anyone starts I am not defending terrorists or murderers or acts like this. They are abhorrent,sickening, a horrendous waste of the lives of people who had nothing to do with any of this and were just trying to make light in a perpetually dark world.

I just think it's absolutely tragic that the people who selected Charlie Hebdo as a target and orchestrated this barbarity (note: NOT MUSLIMS, NOT ALL MIDDLE EASTERN, NOT CLASSIC TERRORISTS, PROBABLY A SELECTION OF MEN VERY EXPENSIVE SUITS) will never face any sort of justice. We're all being whacked with a great big wooden stick (Islamic extremism) but instead of punishing the bully wielding the stick, we just shout "argh! Burn that stick!! Burn ALL the sticks!"

Ranting a bit. Sorry. It's not like I think anything can be done about this ****. We just have to duck our heads and hope we don't get caught in the crossfire and that the world won't be too unbearable when the dust settles. I won't lie - I'm selfishly glad that I live somewhere that's less likely to see the worst of this madness.

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