[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Sorry this will be long but you can choose not to read any of it anyway.
You know, often with alcohol, people open up more, often it is the only way people really tell you how they really feel and react to loss.

I saw no disrespect to him saying this has him feeling worse than when he lost his Father, okay it is a reality show, hehas lost his strongest ally and friend,namely Nadia.
He has come to catch on that just about all have issues with him.

He is likely at as low a point as losing someone to a death in there because of how it has turned out.

He is not blameless,obviously, a lot of his wilder antics have been when he was sober, oddly with alcohol,he becomes,it seems, more reflective.

After Nadia has gone, he probably has sunk really low, I think we got some real heartfelt words from him tonight.
He has irritated, he has annoyed and he has fuelled at times and been heavily in the arguments too.
That can explain why most of them don't like him,however to most of them left, he has not done really anything bad to them.

Not liking someone however, does not excuse, as he pointed out tonight, which hasn't always been shown although it has been touched on, that Katie Hopkins wanted everyone else to isolate/ostracise him, in his words like a leper.

That is compeletely wrong, that woman warrants a warning for even trying to suggest it never mind setting out to organise it.
It was very telling and I believe his version, because Cami was there while he was saying it all and she never challenged him on that statement or said katie Hopkins hadn't.

I don't believe it was for show at all, and it was more telling too that no one went to him to check he was okay, no matter what I thought of anyone, I would never leave them thinking they were so bad they should be ostracised by me or anyone else.

Support and defend Katie Hopkins all anyone likes to, I for one however would be blasting her with all power in me for even suggesting another human being should be ostracised just because she doesn't like them.
It is also against the BB rules, I recall James Jordan last series, being pulled up for helping make Gary feel possibly ostracised,in fact James was then guided by BB to look out for him.

How this woman has got away with this,is beyond me and I for one could never support the ostracising of anyone the way she has tried to do so with him in that house.
No matter his many faults and over the top behaviour like a child hyperactive after having too many sweets.

Dealing with someone as vindictive and uncompromising as Katie Hopkins must drain the life out of a great many people, it certainly would me

I don't choose to laugh at people crying either,he would be upset at losing his Father,when it happened,(mentioning it may have brought that time back to the forefront of his mind), he has also just lost his closest friend,strength and confidante in there, Nadia,he will be feeling really low.

There are always the times to be angry and irritated at someone for annoying you or insulting you even,as Perez has done to some in there.
However there are other times too, when a little calmer wording,sensitivity and a bit of compassion is the likely order of the day.
No matter what I thought of anyone, seeing someone like that tonight,would have seen me at their side, if they wanted me to be.
Not forgetting any bad behaviour from him but just showing some human compassion.
Staggering that we weren't showing anyone doing so.

Then we get that smug cretin Katie Hopkins asking where he was just to try to get more gloating and chances to bring him down.

She wants him isolated but then wants to know where he is, what he is saying and what he is doing.
A rotten scheming pile of scum is what that woman is and how I would love to tell her so one day,the first chance I get to I will too.