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Originally Posted by joeysteele
Reading all this,it makes one wonder why the UK ever wanted to be in and why prime Minister after Prime Minister fought to get the UK into Europe in the first place.
We had all that is being said we could go back to above in posts and UK govts; knew or felt that was unsustainable likely.
It would not satisfy the needs we have now to go back to that.
To trade with the EU would likely cost us a great deal out of it rather than in it by other charges imposed on non EU members.
Also to trade with the EU then we would still have to at least probably accept the free movement of peoples from the EU countries still.
We are not this mighty power we once were, to go down roads of isolation and create ill feeling towards the UK even more from even the closest neighbours would be an act of ridiculous irrationality in my opinion.
Even our supposed strongest ally, the USA, would not want to see the UK out of the EU.
There are indeed many things bad about the EU, and also many things good, funny those who want to come out never mention the businesses that have had help from the EU, that maybe they would not have got from a UK govt;
Those who want out, would have us believe it is a totally negative thing for the UK to be in.
Never pointing out any advantage being in.
We should always be trying to reform the EU by building partnerships with the other Countries and thereby likely forcing changes of direction from within.
Something we could never have the slightest bit of influence as to if we were out, no matter what extra conditions were imposed on non EU members to continue trading with the EU.
There must have been big reasons we turned from how things were before and desperately kept pushing to get to be allowed to join Europe.
To leave now would in my view, make the UK a laughing a stock internationally and be really dangerous for both our economy and status,even moreso that a great many businesses here would hate to see the UK leave the UK too.
Go back to how it was before,not for me, over the decades far too many govts; and PMs and in the end the Nation didn't want things to stay that way and maybe for very good reasons too.
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1) were talking about leaving the union and the constitution. we can still trade
2) who cares what the US wants
3) why should we hand over our laws , our rules, regulations, our business practices, our sovereignty , our courts , our freedoms, our choices, our autonomy, our sheer identity, to unseen unknown unelected unaccountable unaccounted wasteful useless unproven eurocrats?
3)laughing stock? who cares. were we a laughing stock when we kept the pund and our own interest rates? whose the laughing stock now , us or Iceland, Portugal , italy , Greece, and many more? so peer pressure keeps us into this absurd obscene wasteful closed shop ? rubbish. the eurocrats were wrong about the euro and theyre wrong about the unreadable unworkable constitution that will bring all European economies to their knees and strangle us all.
4) get out and keep trading, others will soon follow.