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Originally Posted by kirklancaster View Post
Cherie my love - I wish to make a few things clear.

When I speak of the 'indigenous' people of this country in my posts, I am referring to the composite people living here now who are chiefly the result of over a thousand years or more of continued intermixing and breeding between many diverse cultures, races, religions and ethnicities - from the ancient Picts, Celts, Romans (from many different countries of the Roman Empire) Jutes, Anglo-Saxons, Vikings and Normans etc to more modern day immigrants such as Jamaicans, Asians, Eastern Europeans etc.etc. There is NO such thing as pure English or pure British.

When I oppose our current 'Open Door' policy on immigration, it is not through any 'racist' motive - but Economic and National Security ones, though I will not go into either here, because I have previously written other lengthy posts on both, and this is not the thread to expound such topics.

My father worked all his life down the coal mines apart from 12 years during which he served in the British Army including the entire Second World War fighting overseas - which is when he met and married my mother.

My mother came to this country as the wife of a serving soldier - a genuine marriage far removed from the highly orchestrated 'fake' marriages so prevalent now among immigrants as a way of illegally entering this country - and she came here highly educated, highly qualified, and conversant in the English language.

She worked three jobs for most of her life, yet lived in a state of poverty far lower than she had ever known in her own country before it was ravaged by war, but she never complained and remained to her dying day eternally grateful to this country for welcoming her in and FIERCELY patriotic to it. Not for her, the anti-British bile and incitements to violence spewed by certain of today's treacherous immigrants who despise this country which has embraced them and who have nothing but contempt for the 'indigenous' population whose taxes sustain them. Not for her the desire to tear down the fabric of her host country or the goal of destroying that country and replacing its culture and traditions and religion with those of her native country. Not for her the usurpation of the 'indigenous' people of Britain.

No - she was an immigrant who was grateful to be here. An immigrant who LOVED this country and its people, its culture, its traditions, its hard fought for DEMOCRATIC FREEDOMS. She was an immigrant who WORKED hard, who CONTRIBUTED. Who retained her own native and ethnic identity whilst lovingly becoming as BRITISH as it was possible to become.

(Both she and my father were also staunch Socialists for all their lives - but no parents are perfect.)

Anyway, my mother came here at a time when the vessel which is the UK was filling up, due to; refugees, immigration, an upsurge in the birth rate, an increase in longevity due to better education, sanitation, health care and slowly improving living standards etc, but there was STILL, 'Room For All'.

This alas, is no longer the case; the 'vessel which is the UK' is now 'Full to Brimming', and there is no more 'Room For All'.

This island is Overpopulated. We are in the midst of the greatest Housing Crisis ever. Our NHS is in its death throes. Our Social Security and Benefits system is virtually bankrupt. Our Police service is underfunded, undermanned and becoming more impotent daily. Our Prisons are overcrowded ticking time bombs. Our other services are in crisis. Our Military Services are being systematically decimated.

The 'vessel which is the UK' is now 'Full to Brimming', and there is no more 'Room For All'.

There are no SANE arguments to allow this situation to continue and it is time to not only 'CALL A HALT', but also time for a UK Government to honestly address these very real, very grave, potentially FATAL problems and STOP BETRAYING THE 'INDIGENOUS' BRITISH PEOPLE.

Yes - Uncontrolled Immigration is but ONE of the many causal problems behind the UK's decline - but it IS a MAJOR causal problem nontheless and URGENTLY needs confronting.

And yes - If my mother was an applicant immigrant now (not the genuine wife of a serving British soldier back then) and I was some detached observer, I would 1,000% endorse her application being scrutinised and measured by the criterion of 'What can she offer this country' NOT 'What can this country offer her'.

If the answer is 'not much' then I would also endorse her application being refused - as draconian as some 'bleeding hearts' may view that.
Good Post Kirk, well written and considerate and puts the UKIP case into focus re the question of immigration.

Anybody settled and living in the UK must surely have no objections to what you write, if they do then they are almost certainly part of the problem not the solution.

Why does it need a UKIP to see this and why are our main political parties not more honest when it comes to immigration and the long term problems associated with mass uncontrolled immigration. This is what puzzles me ?

I guess it can be summed up in one word - GREED, more people working (however low the rate or bad the working conditions) means more tax simple as that and to hell with the quality of life for everyone else.

It angers me that people dismiss UKIP or brand them racists just because they have spoken out about a problem that is staring us all in the face.

I know they cannot win power but hopefully enough MP's to be able to stand up in the House of Commons and hold the Govt to task, shame them into dealing with the problem.

The Media have done a good job on UKIP in the last few months, they have smeared the party with many apparent scandals in an effort to discredit the UKIP name or brand and deter voters. And it has worked in part as polls do show a lessening of support for UKIP but what is the reality ?

Perhaps people are not being too open about their support for this Party due to the bad press but we will see what happens in the privacy of a voting booth.

I predict major gains for UKIP otherwise we are all going to hell in a handbasket.
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