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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier
And what, exactly, do you think people's "real motives" are? Do enlighten us. I'm sure everyone wants to know what their opinions are. It must be very confusing for those of us who don't.
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What are you talking about TS? I KNOW people's OPINIONS by what they write on here????
Motives are NOT opinion.
Left Wing members have different MOTIVES for expressing a viewpoint of the same subject or incident as Right Wing members have for expressing polar opposite of the same subject or incident - that's human nature.
I'm talking about the hypocrisy which sees some members seize the 'humanitarian' moral high ground and start lamenting, weeping and wailing when immigrants die in an accident, but do NOT express any of the same 'humanitarian' grief and concern when IS shoots and beheads innocent victims - especially Christians.
I'm talking about the uproar and 'moral' indignation when a ****** attention seeker like Katie Hopkins utters a preposterous anti-immigrant comment whilst those who are wailing loudest in reaction to it are notable by their silence or muted response whenever British-Based Islamic Hate Preachers have consistently spouted far more evil bile and urged Muslims to kill anyone who is NOT a Muslim.
I'm talking about the predictable over-reaction of the 'Lefties'on here in lambasting anyone who DARES to suggest or state that:
1) It is economic suicide for a small island like the UK to continue to allow in unchecked numbers of immigrants at a time when we are in debt, all our services are at breaking point, we have huge numbers of unemployed, and there are already over one million people waiting for a home to live in which does not exist.
2) It is highly dangerous and reckless for a small island like the UK to continue to allow in unchecked numbers of immigrants at a time when Islamic terrorists are decimating half the globe in wars and committing highly orchestrated atrocities in just about every Western Democratic country of the world, and when we have been WARNED by the Leaders of such terrorist organisations that they are secreting their 'Soldiers of Allah' in amongst those incoming immigrants, and when the it is continually emerging that the quick succession of long ensconced immigrants who have left the UK to join up with IS, have - all along - been covert members of terrorist groups.
3) It is banal to continue to be a 'member' of a corrupt, inefficient organisation such as the EU, when the evidence of over 40 years clearly and incontrovertibly proves that our membership has had catastrophic results for us. This includes total decimation of our Farming and Fishing industries, the loss of sovereignty of our Judicial system, control of our borders and a host of other controls. In addition, there has been an annual trade deficit and cost of membership of from £15 to 20 BILLION pounds.
4) That there are people in receipt of Benefits who are able to work, not ill, and are claiming fraudulently.
There are dozens of more examples but there is no point elaborating because I think you will get the message.
Whenever anyone has the nerve to suggest any of the above TRUTHS, the Lefties on here POUNCE upon them in numbers and scream in protest, and the MO is ALWAYS the same: What is being protested about is TWISTE
A) A plea for CONTROLLED IMMIGRATION is wrongly misinterpreted and misquoted as a call for a TOTAL BAN on immigration, and the usual tripe accusations of 'RACIST', XENOPHOBIC' and/or 'INHUMANE' immediately follow.
B) Any claim that some BENEFIT SCROUNGERS exist is wrongly misinterpreted and misquoted as an ATTACK ON THE POOREST AND MOST VULNERABLE ELEMENTS OF SOCIETY.
C) Any call for the UK to quit the EU based upon 40 years of proof of it being a catastrophic failure is wrongly misinterpreted and misquoted and those suggesting we quit are called "Little Englanders" and worse.
You and others like you can say what you want - that is a democratic right on a forum in a democracy, but because our views do not align with yours DOES NOT MAKE YOU RIGHT AND US WRONG.
In fact - no matter how much you write as though you have a monopoly on the absolute truth - the FACTS and EVIDENCE supports what WE contend, and should you wish to enter into a REASONED and CIVIL DEBATE on this, I for one will be happy to oblige you.
As a footnote; I see NOTHING in my post here which breeches Tibb rules - no more than any other post preceding it - I hope therefore, that this response, which has been written in answer to a request by ToySoldier himself, will not be removed or lead to me being infracted. It is fair comment and politely couched.