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Originally Posted by kirklancaster
And here we have the problem Joey:
Christians - even Fundamentalist ones - were learning trades and skills and building up businesses for many, many centuries BEFORE homosexuality became legal.
Christian Fundamentalists beliefs are their raison d'etre (the same reason why some Christians are beheaded by IS because they will not renounce their faith) and therefore certain developments in the modern world do not alter their perception of their Holy Book or their devout adherence to its scripture.
So if we have a, say, Cake making business, as the Irish example, which has been in one Christian family for generations, and a Gay couple enter and ask for a Wedding Cake making complete with slogan; "Support Gay Marriage".
What you are maintaining is that the Cake shop owner should either be;
A) Forced by Law to accept the Order and process it
B) Be prosecuted under the law if he refuses to accept the Order and process it.
C) Should be prevented by law from being in the business he and his family have owned and run for over 100 years.
Now who is DISCRIMINATING against who?
The OWNER turns down the the order from the prospective customer because it compromises his religious beliefs.
The customer is offended by this.
I know we are generalising here, but Why is the customer offended?
If the owner has explained in a cordial and polite way just WHY he cannot accept the order, then why do we need legislation?
Why can't the customer just take his order to a NON-CHRISTIAN cake shop?
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No, not for me, if someone is in business, a public business where they want the custom of the public,then that is what they should provide, for all.
If they cannot, they should not be allowed to disciminate agains any people who are not and have not done anything illegal.
They have their rights to their views personally, not to push them down others throats in a business intended to attract custom from the UK citizenship,no way.
Better not to have such people in business in the first place if they would so firmly 'force' their views on others and discriminate.
The public have the right to choose where they take their custom, unless someone has threatened a business owner or their staff,all businessess wanting the publics custom should serve whoever approaches them.
No one doing nothing illegal, should be made to feel wrong or segregated for their feelings or relationships by anyone, in business or even otherwise.
Any legal protection, in this instance, should be for the potential customers,not some apparantly bigoted business people.