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[QUOTE=joeysteele;7767286]Sorry that is nonsense, and 10 billion pounds of cuts are now having to be found by this govt; that they would not say what they would be cutting.
Only what they wouldn't

Pensioner entitlements,

child benefit - will be cut to visitors and qualification periods will extend up to 5 years. that's great and its fair, people must pay national insurance just like everyone else

.the only things left are jobseekers, they cannot save much from that it is only a palty weekly figure anyway. - they are not allowing 18 to 21 yr olds to go on this without either being on courses learning skills or working
They can hit carers allowance,which will hit the disabled.-labour hit carers allowance and cancelled it for pensioners too. labour also failed to merge the social service and health trust on home care. they also failed to claim back on the private medical carers insurance wasting the economy billions more

Also if you think they did nothing against the sick and disabled, then get along to some of these re-assessments the sick and disabled have to attend and see how rotten they are treated there too.- these were fair enough. the really sick and really disabled kept their benefits, even those treated unfairly had the right to appeal and appeal. millions claimed it falsely simply through developing poor health through poor lifestyle choices and obesity. that is a whole world away from having a disability



PIP replacing DLA,is a nightmare to get, people have avoided claiming it unless they are pushed by some authority to do so.....that makes no sense. pip pays more in many cases and seems to have weeded out the many cheats.

People really ill with cancer, dementia and incurable conditions, worse still those with mental health problems, taken off what was incapacity, told they can do some work ad to claim jobseekers,or put in the wrag as to ESA, rather than the support group of ESA, where they should be.
having to endure endless months and up to a year or moreof fighting to get their rightful benefits restored to them.

THIS point I partly agree with....too many fell through the incapacity gap. of course millions milked it before and wasted billions....but the tories need to get much better at managing this and weeding out the fakes from the genuine people....no one with the conditions you outline should ever lose this benefit imo...on the upside more money is going into the nhs under the conservatives than under labour and this will rise again with a growing economy and a less wasteful less burocratic nhs

People having to go to court who are sick and disabled,just to get their rightful entitlements, needing social workers and Doctors to provide endless evidence to support their claims. you make a valid point but exaggerate somewhat. - again this is a very sad downside to trying to weed out the cheats....in most cases the genuine claimants did get their benefits back. doctors can be hard to get to see too , their secretaries are like pitbulls, social workers need to fight for these people. weve seen how appalling social workers can be in the endless cover ups
That is what has happened to the sick, disabled and most vulnerable during this rotten heartless govt's; last 5 years in power.
maybe not where you are as you seem to live in a state of Utopia, in the rest of the real world however that is what is happening.
sarcasm is the lowest form of wit....in many topic areas ive outlined how things are way worse here in mid wales than other places...

Try to get yourself along to the ATOS style re-assessments of the sick and disabled,you may just get an eye opener.- you need the eye opener...try and look at the gurnos estate in Merthyr to find a sea of workless demotivated uneducated ambiton free people, often labour voters through fear of losing their benefits....through lifestyle choices imposed by the sick new labour doctrine... a doctrine that saw the workless young people multiplying to millions, breeding for benefits getting a much bigger disposable income than working people? all footed by the hard working tax payers....then needing millions of immigrants to work these menial jobs their own people could no longer feel motivated to do? Try look at the way labour left Iraq after their illegal war, try look at the debts they left, try look at the thousands dead in the Stafford cover up, the endless mrsa filthy bugs across british hospitals under labour helping to kill thousands, the massive growth in nhs middle management, the fall in welsh labour nhs investment the waste of the gold, the lies the spin the deceit of new labour....maybe you need the eye opener