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Old 21-06-2015, 11:12 PM #16
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Helen doesn't really listen to all that is said in conflict, she goes down her own route and will not be deflected from it.
She makes mincemeat of near all who do try to confront her, she is formidable and relentless.

Liz,I doubt, would even get many words said let alone ever be able to really take Helen on.
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