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Old 16-09-2015, 08:28 AM #20
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I naturally assume you include me in it because I have a large ego. Deal with it.

And Yes kirk I was saying it's always trash, whether it's Farage, Corbyn or Simon Cowell... I was acknowledging that Farage gets plenty of it. Just because my own opinions of the man are not good (because of his policies and manner, not because of the press) doesn't mean I don't know when the press is jabbering ****.

Though the focus now seems to have switched to Corbyn in general.



Now see, this I just can't get on board with. It's a political catch 22... A monarchy monopoly. Essentially it's saying that you can't be properly engaged in UK politics if you refuse to acknowledge the monarchy as a valid political system. And so if you believe there shouldn't be one? Tough. Because then you're not a proper politician and so will never be in a position to try to change it. No. It's 2015 and major political factions should be able to (and just SHOULD, in my opinion) openly reject the monarchy.

I mean just look at the national anthem if you want to know why I will never sing it. It's about precisely three things. Elitism, War-mongering, and a fictional man in the sky. Not for me, thanks, not any of it. I get that some people love the cuddly old Queen, are "proud" of our country's history as bloodthirsty conquerors, and believe in said men in the sky... And that's fine... But kindly don't force your prayers upon others with the caveat that they're "treasonous" or "anti-patriotic" if they won't comply.
You are missing the whole point T.S. - I am not saying that as a private individual Corbyn should support the monarchy, but that as a STATESMAN and Leader of one of Her Majesty's political parties he should comply with protocol -- especially on such a public and very solemn occasion.

The idiot will hoist himself on his own petard - you will see.
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