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Originally Posted by kirklancaster
First of all Red - I cannot believe that you, or anyone else who loves debating, would restrict their research to only 'non-Right Wing' material (if there is such a thing). Surely, one cannot 'engage' if one is not as comprehensively versed as possible in knowledge of the subject?
Secondly, I feel that you are overlooking the fact that you do not feel 'in danger' in this country purely BECAUSE of the sterling work being carried out 24/7 by our Security Services. If our Security Services were not so efficient then I believe you would be seeing a very different picture of life in the UK as far as terrorist bombings and murders are concerned.
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Let me clarify what I said; "I don't read right wing newspapers". This doesn't mean I don't read Conservative material or watch the news channels. I rarely read left wing newspapers either because although they are polar opposites; they all have their agenda. The skill is to extract the balanced story and I'm not going to get that from a newspaper that holds a bias.
So the only paper I ever physically buy is the Independent and that's because in my opinion, its the only paper who doesn't tell me how to think.
Lets remember that up until fairly recently there was a very real risk of being killed by a terrorist, especially in central London. During the IRA's indiscriminate bombings campaign our security levels went up enormously, not just by our government but by every individual who had to ride a bus or a tube to work.
I was with my dad crossing the Southwark Bridge in 96 when the Docklands bomb went off. I fully understand how fear feels.
I'm sorry that you took the time to collect all that evidence. The IRA campaign is over and what comes after that is a very short list of Islamic extremists. I could equally give you lengthy and more recent lists of spouse murders, gang attacks, massive child abuse incidents, random murders and rape.
My partner was shot in a drive-past outside a nightclub in Brixton back in 2010 but it barely made the news.
My sister was stabbed 17 times by her ex and she got a brief mention in her local evening post. Both these attacks were by English people who were angry and wanted revenge.
My point is, there is nothing more unpredictable than an angry human. Its our very intuition that warns us other humans can be dangerous and for that very reason we don't walk through deserted underpasses late at night.
Nothing wrong with being vigilant but if we were spend all our time believing our lives are in danger then what miserable lives we would lead.