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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed
Thanks Joey and ditto.
You can't debate politics if you can't discuss both sides and most debates on politics tend to get very passionate and heated so I guess you have to be thick skinned  . You absolutely should be able to voice your opinion on Cameron and on Cameron supporters for that matter because if you can't do that, you may as well take up knitting and stay well clear of political debate. |
I agree again.
When I was aged up to 17 I would have been termed a Conservative DR,I actually was strongly supportive to the coalition and hoped for good things from it.
However in 2010,I was concerned,as a lot of my family work in the NHS,whether David Cameron could be trusted with it,something made me not trust him and I voted Lib Dem.
Than as you point out we saw the many failures to hit every economic target set by 'themselves'.
With budget targets revised downwards in the Autumn and the Autumn targets revised downwards again in the next budget.
Then the obscene unnecessary and costly demoralising NHS top down re-organisation that was 'promised' to be never going to happen by Cameron.
Finally the bedroom tax, that was the final thing on top of all the benefit changes and persecution, victimisation and demonisation that was then in place against the most vulnerable in society.
With the whipping up of the divide and conquer stance of turning working people against those needing benefits.
That was when I looked elsewhere and although I was never anti Labour, I found they had the policies more suited to how I viewed how society should be especially to the protection and respect for the dignity of people who are sick, disabled and vulnerable.
Since then some have fired loony left at me, have been told my posts are nonsense,have been told things like food banks are not as stated just because some people have not seen one or seen what happens at one, while I have.
All in the main from Conservative supporters.
I don't change allegiances lightly,just because Corbyn got elected as leader that would not make me run off, it is the policies, the thinking and base of the planning of policies that matter to me.
The building up of the sick and disabled and most vulnerable, not grinding them down, the plan to bring social care and general care together in the NHS.
AS for these austerity cuts, they proved a disastrous between 2010 and 2015 and it may well be that history repeats itself again as to that.
Now the real acidic and in my view unjust attacks on Corbyn have become widespread, yet the policies remain in the planning stage with that base of respect for the dignity of the most vulnerable so I do consider a lot of the attacks as unfair.
I am quite thick skinned and believe me off here,even in my family they get it all guns blazing as to what I believe should be done.
However the written word is hard to express as to tone which is frustrating.
I am mystified anyone can call what this govt is doing as of merit and as to being successful,when all it is doing is executing a set of truly cowardly and bullying policies,designed to grind the most vulnerable into the ground they are walking on, to make the sick and disabled feel like second class citizens and then planning to build a surplus before you make sure 'all' are fully protected before you do the policies needed to bring a surplus about.
This govt acts with a pack mentality against the 'annoying to them' poorest and weakest, sick and disabled of the Nation.
A cowardly bunch of bullies who set out to make sure the strongest and richest get more or are protected while the weakest get ridiculed and crushed,
Yet you read from some, that is him and this vile govt doing good for the Country and worthy of praise and merit,even deemed as success.
Well it makes me feel ashamed and sick.
I said ages ago for his lack of any compassion and decency, this PM has brought down the office of PM of the UK and in my view will continue to do so right until at last he departs the political stage and hopefully for good.
Unfortunately leaving possibly as bad but even worse to come after him if the Theresa May, Osborne or Johnson take over after him.
So I will get behind Labour and Corbyn in the hope for more policies across the board of compassion, understanding, fairness,justice and respect for all citizens of the UK, and not just for the strongest and richest.