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Originally Posted by lostalex
i didn't. i called the ideology/religion toxic, which it is. it is homophobic, it is mysogynistic, it is a hate group, that spreads hate of other religions, and other ideologies. it is TOXIC by any definition. it's evil.
The people aren't evil, the thinking/beliefs/ideologies are though.
stop treating ignorant hateful people with kid gloves. until you fully criticize their ideology they can't be defeated. pretending like it's okay for them to say that gay people should be killed, that gay people are evil, that women should be subservient to men, that women are under men. they will never learn.
most muslims like most christians aren't religious at all, fine. but are they really religious then?
and if you don't really believe in the religion, then fine, say that. BE HONEST THAT YOU DON'T REALY BELIEVE IN THE RELIGION.
it's time to make people be honest about what they really are and what they really believe. because these BELIEFS are getting people KILLED.
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See, this is what comes from lack of understanding and unfortunately there seems to be a lot of this sort of talk going on at the moment.
ISIS are Wahhabi and Wahhabis believe all Suffis and Shi'ite should die. Sufis and Shi'ites are Muslim too, but their only similarity is, their following of Allah and the same prophet; be that in a different way.
Wahhabism started in the Saudi desserts long after the Quran was written and came from a Takfir some random nutter called Abd al Wahhabi was wandering around with after being evicted from his homeland. That Takfir was adopted by a corrupt and notorious warmongering Bedouin tribe led by Ibn Saud...a direct descendant of the Saudi Royals of today and used to rape pillage and plunder under the banner of Jihad.
Back in the 18th century the Ottoman empire eventually pushed these Wahhbis back into the desert and there they stayed until the West brought their billions in exchange for oil and made a direct descendant of Ibn Saud the Saudi king.
The Saud family became spoilt with riches and abandoned a lot of the Wahhabi philosophy but the Bedouin tribes that remained in the Saudi dessert remained true to their cause and this is where ISIS reared its ugly head. ISIS is nothing new, its done all this before but last time it didn't have medium range missiles, armoured tanks or kalashnikovs.
This is why Saudi is arming them. The Saudi's are both terrified and in admiration of these warmongers.
Wahhabi is an offshoot of Sunni but that doesn't make the Sunni's Wahhabis. Shi'ite and Sufi are the Muslims who have directly suffered in the hands of the Wahhabis.
This is why the West don't go in and destroy and murder anyone who carries a Quran because most of the Islam world never wanted Jihad but had no choice but to raise alternative armies when ISIS reared its ugly head against them.