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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed
There are a few places in the UK I would consider no go areas but none of them are Muslim. There's a lot of sink estates in England, especially London and Birmingham, that have Pakistanis, Bangladeshi and Afro-Caribbean communities. If you want to rant on about how us Brits have opened this country for all these immigrants, then you can't just speak about Muslims, you have to include Orthodox Jews, Hindus and the Afro Caribbean who use all sorts of feral Christian religions.
Blaming ghetto situations on one specific religion is yet another 'bait and switch' Kirk. Sink estates and no go areas are not a religious issue, rather one of general poverty and alienation...and if you want to moan about all these bloody immigrants and how 'we' the Brits have welcomed these unappreciative people with open arms, lets at least include all ethnic minorities and not just the ones you don't like.
Oh and please don't tell me Orthodox Jews, Hindus and AC's don't form their own large communities...but then, why shouldn't they?. If they want to keep themselves to themselves what's the problem. I lived in Hackney for a while and not once did I get to have a conversation with an Orthodox Jew. I didn't leave Hackney resentfully believing Orthodox Jews were intolerant of people outside their faith, I just accepted they rarely mix and that's the way it is.
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There's a difference between forming large communities and expecting the existing communities to make exceptions for you.
Try walking round Whitechapel in a short skirt, or with a cigarette in your hand and I guarantee you will be approached and castigated about your attire or the fact you're smoking and don't have a penis. And then try walking round Stamford Hill (or indeed Hackney) in the same outfit and watch the Orthodox Jews ignore you.
That's the difference. We make exceptions for Muslims that we never make for other religions. I've never heard anyone worry about upsetting the Hindus because the Hindus don't expect us to change our national identity to fit in with them.