[Ruth]

Originally posted by Lauren

Don't disregard my argument as buzzwords and bandwagons. It's not a bandwagon that my grandma died from smoking, it's not a buzzword that my aunty contracted lung cancer because my uncle smoked. It's a very real and dangerous thing, it's not down to someone finding a petty argument.

Well, I wasn't referring specifically to you - although I realise it may have looked that way, because I quoted you. I am honestly sorry for what happened to your grandmother and your aunt.

However, that's what I meant when I said that people are looking at this from a personal point of view, rather than seeing the whole picture. It's understandably hard for you to be objective, given what's happened to your relatives, but objectivity is what's needed.

But that was just one sentence in my post that you've quoted. What about the rest of it? What about the private members clubs banning smoking? Do you not think that should be up to the discretion of the club itself? Do you not think that allowing or banning smoking in pubs should be up to the discretion of the landlord - that way, as I said before, EVERYONE would have a choice over whether or not they were in a smoking environment.