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Originally Posted by kirklancaster
Will you PLEASE stop misrepresenting what I write, because NOWHERE did I say that such surveys were of "all Muslims" - I distinctly said; " Your knowledge of this particular emboldened point is then, far more authorative than the results of a number of recent surveys which show that ISIS and other Islamic Extrememist Terrorist organisations DO HAVE varying degrees of sympathy and support amongst a number of 'ordinary' Muslims? "
Then don't be so vague, how many surveys? how many were surveyed? What constitutes an 'ordinary Muslim'?
I am also aware, that there are "many inciteful or hateful references" in many religious texts, and that this fact has been explored in other threads, but you must be also aware - having debated on such threads with me - that Old Testament violence is 'closed-ended' violence which is era specific, ie; no idiotic Jewish extremists can claim to be following Old Testament Scripture by going out and slaying 'Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites' -- chiefly because no such peoples still exist.
The passages of violence in the Qran however, though historical, are 'open-ended' and are still capabable of being seized upon today by Islamic Terrorists to try to justify their evil acts as being the 'Will of Allah'.
Any fundamentalist could at any point seize upon any scripture, none are closed ended as they are open to interpretation imo.
Now we KNOW and the huge majority of peace-loving moderate Muslims KNOW, that the terrorists are NOT religious, though Muslim by name, and that their evil campaign has NOTHING to do with Allah.
The above being true, the actions of ISIS or any other Islamic Extremist Terrorist organisation cannot be any 'Perfect Storm' of religious and political extremism, and to credit them with the 'Religious' part, is doing a great injustice to TRUE Muslims.
In my opinion.
It is,that is the issue isn't it? and the reason why Muslims are facing the injustice of being aligned with extremists.
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( sorry for the look of the post but seemed the easiest way to answer the individual points)