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Old 14-07-2007, 11:55 PM #8
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Originally posted by nodisharmony
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Originally posted by spacebandit


In summary

You make a thread about arabs torturing arabs
This is an article from a well known Newspaper. Actually quite recent and very much in the News.

The thread came about, because I felt it was a good story to read and know about.

It concerns (Abu Omar, an Egyptian cleric) and what he went through and the story which followed



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Originally posted by spacebandit

But the story you use most to illustrate your point is actually about americans torturing an arab
Details, Details, what of it?

This all comes about from Wars which come about by certain individuals from "Guess where?"

"Religion" and "Fanatics". I don't point the finger at the USA that much, because "Religion" is not the basis for War from the superpower, is it?

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Originally posted by spacebandit

I did read between the lines and understood your post perfectly

You created a thread designed to condemn arabs for practicing torturing , when in fact the torturers of the piece you rely on were American.

It was a pack of lies, disingenuos and misleading beyond accidental.
The article is very clear and concise, or are you doubting Abu's word?

I wanted some to read between the lines, as the story unfolds a certain way, but doesn't really speak what it needs to speak, if you get my meaning?

Nothing Racial about that. It is just certain individuals who want War. Thousands, I believe

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Originally posted by spacebandit

It was racist
If you read the article as being that way, then it is hardly the fault of Abu, now, is it?

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Originally posted by spacebandit

once again you make a post attacking arabs, as you did over in the moslem thread about womens subjugation that YOU also started
I have opened up a thread about "Abu", and his account of what happened to him and his whole account of what happened.

The attacking of Arabs is something which is printed in Newspapers, as some of those start Wars and join in Wars, so naturally, they will have some resistance from their enemies.

There is a few enemies, isn't there?

The ones who wish to war are looking for them.

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Originally posted by spacebandit

and yet refuse to attack the westerners actually responsible for the very crimes you are condemning in the piece you use to illustrate your point.
"Westerners" sometimes, have to clear up the mess which other invaders start in the first place.

If a middle-eastern country wishes to wage War, then it goes on for ages, perhaps a Westerner may choose to help, in a way which you may not like personally.

The face of War is always the same, but the Wars seem to be in the middle-east, and that is where the main arrow is pointing.

If you can see it

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Originally posted by spacebandit

Lies
Damned lies
and
Racism
If you wish to criticise the article, then fair enough.

But those five words above, don't really do much. Further clarification from a critic would make anyone reading this understand the full picture, eh


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Originally posted by spacebandit

That is you in a nutshell

Typical response, in attacking form, once again

nodisharmony
Sophistry from you again...

Lets clear things up, for you specially, as anyone else reading this thread can no doubt comprehend it :



Edited by Sunny_01 - heated debate is fine but calling other forum members is not - if this continues a warning will be issued


You have once again confirmed the context in which you made the post - ignore the AMERICAN torture that you not only made the initial post about, ignoring the american acts of course but lay the blame for them on other arabs, and then expanded upon it in a reply and specifically blamed arabs for it.

bait and switch - in your own thread multiple times

Your own response to being caught out that americans did the torturing and not arabs as you claimed

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Originally posted by nodisharmony

Details, Details, what of it?
shows your true intent

Lies
Damned Lies
and Racism............Fits you like a glove


You have no real opinion or judgement, just cut and paste attempts at shock and awe that you are unable to sustain or justify when questioned on it, you can't argue your point - you are incapable of making one yourself without a hollywood movie to assist you.




When the judgement's weak,
The prejudice is strong.

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